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05-30-2014 09:06 PM
FelixTheGSD
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Originally Posted by jocoyn View Post
I think the responses have evolved based on additional information. My first concern about heat was due to the idea the dog would be inside most the time. Out all day is fine and with 32 acres and family around sounds ideal.

Chagas. Dawn and Dusk. I gather that is a serious concern in Texas and one I would worry about were I there and the dog had sleeping quarters during the dark hours when those buges that carry it come out.

Personally, I think pavers or concrete is a better surface than the fake grass. Easy to sanitize.
He will be sleeping inside in a crate / in my room. He would be outside after breakfast (6 or 7), in for lunch (around noon) and then back out until dinner (5 or 6) and then in for the night
05-30-2014 08:32 PM
jocoyn I think the responses have evolved based on additional information. My first concern about heat was due to the idea the dog would be inside most the time. Out all day is fine and with 32 acres and family around sounds ideal.

Chagas. Dawn and Dusk. I gather that is a serious concern in Texas and one I would worry about were I there and the dog had sleeping quarters during the dark hours when those buges that carry it come out.

Personally, I think pavers or concrete is a better surface than the fake grass. Easy to sanitize.
05-30-2014 08:23 PM
Cassidy's Mom
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
Pups I let out once before bed, crate and let out briefly around 6am then back to bed I go.
How many puppies have you raised? That plan would have worked just fine with ONE of mine, with all the others I would have woken up with a pee-soaked crate and puppy more often than not. It's not about training, it's about bladder control, which does vary from pup to pup.
05-30-2014 08:09 PM
FelixTheGSD
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
My dogs stay outside all day long while I'm at work. I want them acclimated to the heat, because my dogs work outside. As puppies, they are crate trained.

In south Texas #1 importance is cool, fresh water. You want to encourage them to drink. If you use a plastic water jug, it'll heat up in the sun and the dog won't drink hot water. Make sure it's water remains in the coolest place you can possibly place it. And clean it out daily. Lots of Texas insects love to hang out in the water dishes.

Make sure your pup can get out of the sun. Make sure your pup can stay dry during a storm.

If you are in an area where Rattlers are common, remember they'll come looking for a cool spot as well. Make sure your out door kennel is snake proof.

Fair warning: you are going to make all sorts of plans and when you bring that cute little bundle of fur home, everything will change. Love your pup. Train your pup. Take the best care of your pup as you can. It will all work out.

Congrats on the new pup!!!!
He will always have water. We have lots of bugs, but not too many snakes. Never seen any poisonious ones, just garden and worm snakes. We are Central.

He will always be inside during the nights, bad storms, etc. The kennel is merely for those times when we can't watch him and don't want him to wreck the place xD

Thanks for the 'grats
05-30-2014 06:36 PM
Lilie
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Originally Posted by FelixTheGSD View Post
It's a blessing

At what age do you guys think he would be ok outside for that time? 10 weeks or so?
My dogs stay outside all day long while I'm at work. I want them acclimated to the heat, because my dogs work outside. As puppies, they are crate trained.

In south Texas #1 importance is cool, fresh water. You want to encourage them to drink. If you use a plastic water jug, it'll heat up in the sun and the dog won't drink hot water. Make sure it's water remains in the coolest place you can possibly place it. And clean it out daily. Lots of Texas insects love to hang out in the water dishes.

Make sure your pup can get out of the sun. Make sure your pup can stay dry during a storm.

If you are in an area where Rattlers are common, remember they'll come looking for a cool spot as well. Make sure your out door kennel is snake proof.

Fair warning: you are going to make all sorts of plans and when you bring that cute little bundle of fur home, everything will change. Love your pup. Train your pup. Take the best care of your pup as you can. It will all work out.

Congrats on the new pup!!!!
05-30-2014 06:36 PM
Blitzkrieg1 Sounds good. I know some people also have kennel setups in their garages as they tend not to get hot in the summer out here and can be heated in winter. Smaller pen that you can easily throw the pup in when necessary. Also if you have a screamer they can learn to be quiet in the crate while in the garage without making life to difficult. Easier on the ears..lol.

Something like a 3x8 welded wire panel run. Usually throw a raised cot or wooden pallet in there so the dog is off the floor. Seen these type of kennels at Tractor Supply type places.
05-30-2014 06:27 PM
FelixTheGSD
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Originally Posted by Blitzkrieg1 View Post
I never cease to be amazed by how people allow their lives to be dictated by their dogs, especially pups.

Out door kennels are a great option if you are going to be gone for 10+ hours or if you just want the dog out of your hair for a bit.

Pups I let out once before bed, crate and let out briefly around 6am then back to bed I go. By the time the pup is 12-14 weeks I dont let them out until I wake up and they are fine.
So the only reason you would need extra sleep would be if your responding to every whine and cry the dog makes. Needless to say thats not good training.

I wouldnt worry about leaving a pup in an outdoor kennel for the entire day as long as the property was secure and the kennel was safe. Many people do it.

Ill take the pup out for a walk or play with / train it here and there 3 to 5 times a day otherwise the dog is in his kennel. Which is in another room. Ignore all whining or crying. If this is consistently done they learn to be quiet and clean in the crate and to sleep when they are not out.

I dont have a set schedule I do things on my time and all my dogs learned very quickly from pups to adults that nothing happens until it happens. No crying, barking or any other kind of noise achieves anything other then negative consequences.

You end up with dogs that learn to be alone without property damage or excess noise when necessary and for very long periods of time. Whether Im at work all day or on a 12 hour road trip.

The dogs fit into my life, no waking up at 7am every day for "walkies" or having freakouts because the daily meal or playtime has been thrown off by scheduling conflicts.
Dog ownership can be hard or easy, its all what you make it. (GSDs are easier to own then little dogs in my experience) Easier to teach, quieter, cleaner etc.

Im currently planning an outdoor kennel for a dog to actually live in. Im going to put it on paving stone and attach an insulated dog house to the outside. There will also be a roof and padlock on the gate. Three of the walls will be wood so the dog will only be able to see out one side. Reduced visibility = less barking.
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That is our goal, to eventually have a well behaved dog that looks to us for guidence and is well trained, but is able to be on his own for a few hours.

Your kennel sounds awesome! Ours is a Priefert, with a shade top and 1 shade proof side from the direction the sun comes. It will be entirely shady at all times of the day, since it is under 2 huge oak trees

We would lock it, but we don't need to worry about theives or strangers since no one comes onto our land but us. It will just be clipped so the pup can't open it (Plus, it will be inside of our fenced yard, even safer! We just don't want him going in the pool alone.)
05-30-2014 06:20 PM
Blitzkrieg1 I never cease to be amazed by how people allow their lives to be dictated by their dogs, especially pups.

Out door kennels are a great option if you are going to be gone for 10+ hours or if you just want the dog out of your hair for a bit.

Pups I let out once before bed, crate and let out briefly around 6am then back to bed I go. By the time the pup is 12-14 weeks I dont let them out until I wake up and they are fine.
So the only reason you would need extra sleep would be if your responding to every whine and cry the dog makes. Needless to say thats not good training.

I wouldnt worry about leaving a pup in an outdoor kennel for the entire day as long as the property was secure and the kennel was safe. Many people do it.

Ill take the pup out for a walk or play with / train it here and there 3 to 5 times a day otherwise the dog is in his kennel. Which is in another room. Ignore all whining or crying. If this is consistently done they learn to be quiet and clean in the crate and to sleep when they are not out.

I dont have a set schedule I do things on my time and all my dogs learned very quickly from pups to adults that nothing happens until it happens. No crying, barking or any other kind of noise achieves anything other then negative consequences.

You end up with dogs that learn to be alone without property damage or excess noise when necessary and for very long periods of time. Whether Im at work all day or on a 12 hour road trip.

The dogs fit into my life, no waking up at 7am every day for "walkies" or having freakouts because the daily meal or playtime has been thrown off by scheduling conflicts.
Dog ownership can be hard or easy, its all what you make it. (GSDs are easier to own then little dogs in my experience) Easier to teach, quieter, cleaner etc.

Im currently planning an outdoor kennel for a dog to actually live in. Im going to put it on paving stone and attach an insulated dog house to the outside. There will also be a roof and padlock on the gate. Three of the walls will be wood so the dog will only be able to see out one side. Reduced visibility = less barking.
05-30-2014 06:17 PM
FelixTheGSD
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Originally Posted by YORCHI View Post
I wish I had that much space for a dog, wow!!

Like others have said, a crate/kennel is best for that amount of time. I just bought one now and will keep it indoors. I'll let her outside on her own for extended periods of time after she's had all her shots and the temperatures aren't as high. For now we plan on keeping her inside and hopefully away from things that I don't want to see torn up. I'm nervous about my carpet now so I might have to put a barrier between the dining room and the stairs where the carpet starts.

Have fun with your puppy!
It's a blessing

At what age do you guys think he would be ok outside for that time? 10 weeks or so? I could probably convince my parents to let him stay inside for the first few weeks, since they'll realize that I can clean up after him and that it's better for his health. We already have a crate inside, so that might work. The kennel is just going to be for those times that we can't monitor him (very rarely, as he will either be 1) hanging out in the house 2) playing outside with me 3) exploring with me or my dad or 4) with my dad in the barn / on the land most of the time) It makes sense to use the crate for the first week or two to help him aclimate better, but I want the kennel to be the permenent away-from-his-person spot. So keeping cool tips are appreciated!
05-30-2014 06:11 PM
FelixTheGSD
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Originally Posted by Lilie View Post
No kiddie pool. It doesn't take much for a small pup to drown. You'll also find that the plastic pool makes a much better chew toy then a cooling station. Therefore, you'll need to supervise pool time!

When mine got older, I purchased a horse water trough....and they hang out in there!
Okay. Thank's for the advice!
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