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05-28-2014 09:15 AM
fuzzybunny
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Originally Posted by lesslis View Post
I have a 9 yr old rescue gsd with the same problems. I hate thunderstorms. Of course , tried to hide that but they know. She would totally shut down. No food, pace, hide. Purchased my Tebow who has no storm issues. Embarrassed to admit but he has helped her with this way more than I could. She still gets nervous at first but his body language must calm her.
Most won't buy another dog to help this, lol, but it was a unexpected help in our case. Best of luck. It is sad to watch.
We have another dog who has very minimal fear of very loud thunder only. She'll whine a tiny bit if it's really loud thunder but is fine otherwise. She's not phased at all by fireworks. Her calmness doesn't seem to provide any comfort to my boy whatsoever unfortunately. It is sad to watch.

My concern comes from the fact that this is taking over and worsening. He's becoming panicked over things that I can't hear at all. Were having to return home on walks when it's a beautiful day out. This increase in fear is recent and I believe due to the prolonged exposure to the multiple storms and fireworks.
05-28-2014 08:49 AM
lesslis I have a 9 yr old rescue gsd with the same problems. I hate thunderstorms. Of course , tried to hide that but they know. She would totally shut down. No food, pace, hide. Purchased my Tebow who has no storm issues. Embarrassed to admit but he has helped her with this way more than I could. She still gets nervous at first but his body language must calm her.
Most won't buy another dog to help this, lol, but it was a unexpected help in our case. Best of luck. It is sad to watch.
05-28-2014 08:44 AM
fuzzybunny I think I want this for myself, lol. It is really soothing! I've played some classical before for him but I only had one cd which wasn't that great. I'm going to download this because even if it doesn't work for him, I think it'll work for me whenever I'm having trouble sleeping. Thanks
05-28-2014 08:28 AM
dawnandjr Through a Dog's Ear - Using music and sound to improve the lives of dogs...*and*their people!
05-28-2014 06:39 AM
fuzzybunny Thank you Chip and Gatorbytes! I will try the Ashwaganda before going to the Vet for something prescribed since that is a last resort for me. I'm in a large city so it shouldn't be difficult to find. I posted in my Facebook Shiloh group before but all the suggestions I got were ones I had already tried. I'm going to repost though since I'm looking for more specific info now. My experience with the ISSR Shiloh group is that whenever you post about a problem they inevitably end up pointing out that said problem is a result of having a "splinter" dog from one of the other Shiloh registries. The politics is outrageous. I'll check out the feardog.com link Chip. Thanks again for all the info you dug up for me. I found the ASPCA link esp helpful because it went in specifics on how to desensitize.
05-28-2014 03:05 AM
Chip18 I just found the site not the blog!

Fearfuldogs.com
05-27-2014 11:59 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by GatorBytes View Post
Ashwagandha

You can get tincture form by "St. Francis" in most health food stores. You would start to use this as takes a bit of time to start working but is said to work as well as or better then anti-depressants and/or anti-anxiety meds. It is not something you give just before a storm like a typical pill or even melatonin.

This also has so many more benefits to your dogs health, immune health, thyroid, adrenals (stress hormones), antifungal. etc. etc.

Ashwagandha: Stress Reduction, Neural Protection, and a Lot More from an Ancient Herb - Life Extension

^^^
For example, in validated models of anxiety and depression, ashwagandha has been demonstrated to be as effective as some tranquilizers and antidepressant drugs. Specifically, oral administration of ashwagandha for five days suggested anxiety-relieving effects similar to those achieved by the anti-anxiety drug lorazepam (Ativan®), and antidepressant effects similar to those of the prescription antidepressant drug imipramine (Tofranil®).

Also note this...you wont find this benefit in a pharmaceutical

In addition to ashwagandha’s documented neuroprotective effects, exciting recent evidence suggests that it also has the potential to stop cancer cells in their tracks. For example, a recent analysis showed that ashwagandha extract inhibited the growth of human breast, lung, and colon cancer cell lines in the laboratory. This inhibition was comparable to that achieved with the common cancer chemotherapy drug doxorubicin (Caelyx®, Myocet®). In fact, researchers reported that withaferin A, a specific compound extracted from ashwagandha, was more effective than doxorubicin in inhibiting breast and colon cancer cell growth.11,14
Looks interesting to me thanks.
05-27-2014 11:55 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by huntergreen View Post
i don't think you can fix this, but not an expert. the only thing i have heard is to not acknowlede this or try to comfort your dog. as this reinforces the behavior. i have the same issue, but with our jrt.
True you can't fix every dogs problems sometimes you have to just manage them..but doesn't mean you can't try.

Sorry your guy has troubles also.
05-27-2014 10:31 PM
GatorBytes Ashwagandha

You can get tincture form by "St. Francis" in most health food stores. You would start to use this as takes a bit of time to start working but is said to work as well as or better then anti-depressants and/or anti-anxiety meds. It is not something you give just before a storm like a typical pill or even melatonin.

This also has so many more benefits to your dogs health, immune health, thyroid, adrenals (stress hormones), antifungal. etc. etc.

Ashwagandha: Stress Reduction, Neural Protection, and a Lot More from an Ancient Herb - Life Extension

^^^
For example, in validated models of anxiety and depression, ashwagandha has been demonstrated to be as effective as some tranquilizers and antidepressant drugs. Specifically, oral administration of ashwagandha for five days suggested anxiety-relieving effects similar to those achieved by the anti-anxiety drug lorazepam (Ativan®), and antidepressant effects similar to those of the prescription antidepressant drug imipramine (Tofranil®).

Also note this...you wont find this benefit in a pharmaceutical

In addition to ashwagandha’s documented neuroprotective effects, exciting recent evidence suggests that it also has the potential to stop cancer cells in their tracks. For example, a recent analysis showed that ashwagandha extract inhibited the growth of human breast, lung, and colon cancer cell lines in the laboratory. This inhibition was comparable to that achieved with the common cancer chemotherapy drug doxorubicin (Caelyx®, Myocet®). In fact, researchers reported that withaferin A, a specific compound extracted from ashwagandha, was more effective than doxorubicin in inhibiting breast and colon cancer cell growth.11,14
05-27-2014 09:01 PM
Chip18 Nother link:
How To Help Dogs With Thunder Phobia | Veterinarians Dover | Shiloh Veterinary Hospital

Maybe a crate create, a den, throw a heavy blanket on it and "white noise" during an episodes? See if he will use it "not" crating as such but offering a quieter spot than an unmuffled bathroom.

The fact that he won't take treats is a shutdown, pretty much full panic mode. Maybe meds and a walk sitting would be manageable?

Have you registered with a Shiloh board? This is not a breed specific problem but I have seen something similar on an episode of "Bad Dogs."

One bedroom apartment, owner had female Shilo, if she raised her voice to the dog, the dog would turn around go upstairs to the bathroom, close the door and get in the tub!!??

She got a second dog and the first dog taught the second dog the same behaviour??

Just saying that forum might have something useful..just a thought.

ISSR Shiloh Shepherds
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