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05-27-2014 11:38 AM
kr16 Try asking here, lots of actual breeders post

https://www.facebook.com/groups/137571126295922/
05-27-2014 03:07 AM
JeaneneR I didn't say that she would be competitive in flyball, simply that a dog that she owned would have fun outlets for their energy. She likely will have no interest in high level of sport.. but a dog with low/medium drives can be perfectly successful at low levels without being difficult for a disabled person to live with. I don't expect you to know that since I didn't specifically state that. (Just an aside, whippet and bull terrier are far more common crosses than greyhound)

To explain this in a way maybe people will be able to understand.

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"She needs a Low to moderate prey drive, Medium to high ball drive, low to moderate energy levels. She will likely be doing sport work (agility, flyball, obedience) with the dog as well but because of her disability doesn't always have the energy levels to work a high drive dog so working lines are out"
She is looking for a dog that won't go chasing everything that moves. Small animals, plastic bags in a parking lot, that sort of thing.

A dog that is willing and happy to retrieve items when asked, pick up dropped items, and play a happy game of fetch with his or her handler

A dog that wants to engage in their handler in a variety of fun sports for the enjoyment of the handler and dog, not to compete at a national level, or for high in trial.. or for ribbons or anything else Seriously.

A dog that can lay around the house when she is having a bad day or can't get out and isn't going to be pacing or eating the walls, so a dog with a good off switch, but willing to go out and do when it's handler wants it to.



As for stating drives that she would be looking for, the majority of people aren't going to know the kind of drives, temperament or energy level a 'service dog' will need, and if I'm searching for a breeder who produces this type of dog I felt it would be better to know What she was looking for. Not magically know. So I tried to outline the ideal, I realize that dogs are living breathing animals and no dog is magically going to be exactly perfect. But knowing what to shoot for is at least half the battle with finding the Right breeder.

As for the prey drive/ball drive debate, there are shepherds that are stronger in one or the other.. as well as other breeds that do. Labs would be a good example of a breed who has rather low interest in chasing small animals or moving objects but fairly high interest in retrieving toys or objects for their handler (See I can learn, I won't call them drives if it makes you feel better).

I thought members of this board would have a wider net of contacts than I do, especially since I tend towards the working line circles rather than show line. I see that I was wrong and that I can't get any constructive information only people talking in circles about the fact that I either don't know what I'm looking for or am not going to find it.

Now I would appreciate that if people can't be helpful, and have no useful information to impart.. namely breeders who breed west german show line, maybe 'old style', or white shepherds To just not comment.

If you can be helpful and you know of a good breeder who Might breed the kind of dog I'm looking for that is in or around NC, then I would love to hear information.
05-25-2014 05:55 PM
carmspack A good breeder won't say , here it is ! exactly what you are looking for , Because everything you asked for is in conflict and confused.

What is her primary need? Therapy , some for of assistance service ? Then go find that . Don't tell the breeder how or what the character profile will be for that purpose. Go to a breeder with experience providing that , and let them tell you , show you , what they have or will have.

this is so confused
"She needs a Low to moderate prey drive, Medium to high ball drive, low to moderate energy levels. She will likely be doing sport work (agility, flyball, obedience) with the dog as well but because of her disability doesn't always have the energy levels to work a high drive dog so working lines are out"

seems like you can't do right because no matter what you provide , there will be a complaint or dissatisfaction . Flyball for instance is high energy , high ball drive , high prey (prey/play) , so much so that there are "breeds" specially created for the advantage in this competitive timed sport. Mixes of border collie and racing greyhound .
05-25-2014 05:26 PM
PMRonan generally in my experience a "/" means "and/or"... But good luck with that, teach me to try to suggest someone to has EXCELLENT dogs and is super knowledgeable about what litter dogs on his yard's temperament and abilities tend to have.
05-25-2014 12:03 PM
kr16
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Originally Posted by PMRonan View Post
Triad K9 - Our Kennel

Guy is super nice and has legit dogs.
Breeder in or around NC - WGSL/Whites
05-25-2014 10:53 AM
hunterisgreat
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Originally Posted by JeaneneR View Post
You can have a decent retrieve drive without a super high drive to chase small animals. Perhaps I should have been more specific with that but there is a difference in the drives. You can have a dog with super high prey drive with no retrieve drive (I have one at home) and the reverse is also true. Yes the drives come from a similar place but are not the same at all times.


Now back to my original question. I am looking a breeder in or around NC that breeds dogs appropriate for service work. Preference given to a breeder who has already placed one or more pups in successful service homes.
You can't just slap "drive" after any behavior. You are describing different manifestations of prey drive. Prey drive, food drive, defensive drive, sex drive. That's pretty much all there is. Anything else is a behavior caused by one or more of the drives
05-25-2014 10:41 AM
PMRonan Triad K9 - Our Kennel

Guy is super nice and has legit dogs.
05-24-2014 07:00 PM
JeaneneR
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You have an example?

Last I checked prey drives includes chasing after anything that moves and that includes a ball. The dog not bringing the ball back to you is a training issue.
Last I checked this doesn't have anything to do with recommending a breeder. I'm not looking to get into an argument on drives, I'm looking for a breeder not a debate.
05-24-2014 06:09 PM
simba405
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Originally Posted by JeaneneR View Post
You can have a dog with super high prey drive with no retrieve drive (I have one at home) and the reverse is also true.
You have an example?

Last I checked prey drives includes chasing after anything that moves and that includes a ball. The dog not bringing the ball back to you is a training issue.
05-24-2014 05:36 PM
JeaneneR You can have a decent retrieve drive without a super high drive to chase small animals. Perhaps I should have been more specific with that but there is a difference in the drives. You can have a dog with super high prey drive with no retrieve drive (I have one at home) and the reverse is also true. Yes the drives come from a similar place but are not the same at all times.


Now back to my original question. I am looking a breeder in or around NC that breeds dogs appropriate for service work. Preference given to a breeder who has already placed one or more pups in successful service homes.
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