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06-09-2014 01:35 PM
middleofnowhere ""It doesn't look like ringworm. Even though Demodex mites can be elusive, if a dog has as many spots as he does, (face, all 4 legs), that would indicate a generalized Demodex infestation and the population would be large enough at that point that it would be easy to see the mites under microscope - especially since we took 4 separate deep skin scrapings....""

Yeah well my experience says otherwise. I'd treat for mange. Believe me, I went through this and scraping after scraping showed nothing. It WAS mange. Treatment worked. Recovery was dramatic.
06-09-2014 10:54 AM
GatorBytes In the link I provided there is a blurb about spinisod (sp.) use in conjunction with ivermectin = bad.

Also look into wondercide. I have used and is very effective. A few weeks ago I had brushed him and no twitching or itchies. My neighbour was digging up front garden (front of house) and G had to say Hi (there are feral cats who visit as my upstairs neighbour feeds them).

Within a few mins, G was bothered and as I ran my hand on upper back his skin (muscles) were twitching...I promptly sprayed him with wondercide.
No issue after.

At 7 months and with use of Trifexis as well as the vaccines given during first yr. You can bet that the immune system is weak. Not auto-immune, just underdeveloped and that is when demodex proliferates.

Bovine Colostrum is a safe immune system support. Nutritional support too. SeaVive is a combo product of Colostrum and SeaCure - a predigested fish protein.

Liver support - Milk Thistle (consult with a holistic vet on this as still puppy), Homeopathic Nux Vomica
06-09-2014 10:35 AM
MoosesMama Update: Today I'm giving him Heartguard instead of the Trifexis. We'll see if this clears it up and then we will know if it was the Trifexis or not. Never used Heartguard before - hopefully he tolerates it well. Will use something else for the fleas/ticks, not sure what yet.
He finished the antibiotics - did not seem to help. It's hard to tell now if he is getting new spots of fur loss or not because there are so many tiny little spots I can't count them, but I THINK it is not getting worse.

I took him to another vet for a second opinion and they said the same thing as my own vet. (Sunflowers thanks for the vet recommendation, will keep in mind).
"It doesn't look like ringworm. Even though Demodex mites can be elusive, if a dog has as many spots as he does, (face, all 4 legs), that would indicate a generalized Demodex infestation and the population would be large enough at that point that it would be easy to see the mites under microscope - especially since we took 4 separate deep skin scrapings. Does not have the symptoms of other potential causes such as thyroid issues, auto-immune problems, etc."

So for now we are going to wait it out and see what happens. Poor baby has been through enough poking and prodding, so unless it gets worse or does not get any better with time, I'm not going to subject him to anything else. The next step would be bloodwork and skin biopsy (ouch).

I have a suspicion that keeps bothering me that it could be caused from cat scratches. What do you think? We have two cats that don't tolerate him very well and are always swatting him. The interesting thing is that he only has hair loss in the areas where the cats can get him. No lesions what so ever on his trunk where the cats can't reach...
05-25-2014 07:47 AM
Sunflowers Go see Dr. Hill
Underhill Animal Hospital
4900 Lake Underhill Rd
Orlando, FL, 32807
(407) 277-0927

He takes care of all the K9s in the area. Make sure it's Dr. Hill, though. He is the owner and the best.
05-24-2014 10:52 PM
Magwart Maybe Ringworm?
05-24-2014 06:28 PM
MoosesMama I was wondering about the Trifexis too... It sure does look like demodectic mange - not that I've ever seen it before, but it sounds just like all the descriptions. The vet thought so too. She took several skin scrapings though, she said they were "good deep scrapings". She also said the mites can hide sometimes but that they aren't that difficult to find.
05-24-2014 01:31 AM
middleofnowhere It is not unusual to be unable to get a read for mites on a scrape, or two or three or many many more. I'd guess mange mites and treat for them. If it solves the problem, there's your answer.
05-23-2014 10:00 PM
GatorBytes
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Originally Posted by MoosesMama View Post
He is on Trifexis. I started him on it about 3 weeks after his rabies vaccine.
Think you found your issue...worried about HW, then stick to ivermectin (I only suggest b/c you are in florida otherwise I say pass on toxic pestisides), but have an MDR1 test done first.

look at "wondercide" - google it, for flea control.

Read this

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4598401

and this

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...ml#post4574466
05-23-2014 09:24 PM
MoosesMama He is on Trifexis. I started him on it about 3 weeks after his rabies vaccine.
05-22-2014 11:08 PM
GatorBytes What heartworm/flea/tick prevention are you using?

Did you start this at same time as rabies vaccine?
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