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Yesterday 11:34 PM
wolfstraum to be fair....many times when people are handed an AKC application, they pick out a name and use names of dogs in the pedigree...without knowing that it is absolutely poor manners to say the least...I have seen Tiekerhook, haus Antverpa and Poranchni (sp!) straze used by owners whose breeders just didn't know or care about kennel naming conventions. Usually this is done out of ignorance or not understanding, not malice...

In order to protect their kennel names, the European breeders would need to register their name with the AKC and pay the fee. I remember when the Tiekerhook mis-named dog showed up, Koos Hassing was on the PDB and livid over it.

Yesterday 11:17 PM
Jax08 I swear this Ruger Vom Kirschental pedigree discussion with the littermates progeny being bred together has come up before.
Yesterday 11:01 PM
carmspack here is the pedigree
Ruger Vom Kirschental

Ruger Vom Kirschental

Yes , I did this twice , just to make sure that I was not making a mistake.

The name of the dog in the picture may say Ruger vom Kirschental -- a name he could not , should not have , yet , the name clearly says Ruger von Barnhill in the shaded http: banner above this .

which is html?id=2041637-ruger-von-barnhill

That is acceptable . Kirschental is not !

according to the information that the pedigree data base provides , Sargeant Major (sire) and Quiet Storm (dam)
are related to each other through Major's dam and Storms dam being sisters .
Yesterday 10:27 PM
Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
I think only if your kennel is registered with AKC?
Ding! Otherwise it's fair game. Backhanded and unethical, but fair game.
Yesterday 08:36 PM
Jax08 I think only if your kennel is registered with AKC?
Yesterday 08:25 PM
Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
It's not ethical.
Yeah lol I know but I'd think it's not possible, like there are some stops in place. Lol I wouldn't count on bybs to be ethical
Yesterday 08:21 PM
Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
It's not ethical.
Can you? I thought you can't unless you have the breeders permission on the paperwork?
Yesterday 08:20 PM
Originally Posted by lalachka View Post
Anyone can register a dog with someone else's kennel name?
It's not ethical.
Yesterday 08:09 PM
lalachka Anyone can register a dog with someone else's kennel name?
Yesterday 08:06 PM
Liesje I don't understand why the dog was registered with Kirschental's name? The original name entered looks more accurate. The PDB pedigree has been changed a few times, SchH1 added and then just recently removed? The first few generations offer nothing, no titles, recognizable dogs or kennel names. Beyond that, the dam's lines look primarily west German show line and the sire's lines working line with one west German show line. Without knowing the motives of the breedings in the past few generations I think it's hard to make any accurate predictions.
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