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05-22-2014 07:46 AM
LaRen616 My breeder also told me to wait until my Dal puppy is at least a year old before neutering, I wanted to wait until he is 2 years old but he is cryptorchid so he has to be neutered no later than 18 months.
05-22-2014 07:16 AM
eddie1976E My breeder contract specifically states the warranty will be null and void if the puppy is fixed before 14 months. Aside from that, I still think I would wait till he is 18-24 months old before fixing. There are conflicting studies that show intact males are just as healthy or healthier than fixed males, there are studies that show early fixing may cause arthritis later and I have seen some very feminine looking males, which were fixed too early.

It is a personal choice and I don't hold it against anyone no matter what their decision is. At this point my preference is to hold off as the breeder/vet recommended. Have to trust someone, and I chose to trust her when it came to picking a puppy for me and when it comes to his health.
05-22-2014 06:00 AM
Diesel7602
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
But it is not accurate to claim that certain behaviors can not be attributed to the sex hormones. Of course hormones play a role in behavior, just like the loss of hormones play a role (both good and bad on both sides). It's important to be aware of this and prepared to train and manage the dog appropriately when you keep them intact.
thank you
i think you are the only one to acknowledge this!

but in reality you're taking an easy way out


seriously?
these are pets they are not children
pets when i last checked are here for our enjoyment
not an added headache and to make our lives more difficult!

you seem to think having intact pets is some sort of test of good ownership
but i am here to tell ya it is not
it is a choice plain and simple and as i have said before having intact pets does not make you a better owner
just like having altered pets does not make you uneducated

for gosh sake i am surprised nobody has slung out the 'raw is better and if you feed kibble you are a terrible owner' argument yet
that is what this argument is akin to btw
it seems some are ranting on as if to say if you chose early speuter you should not even own a pet!


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05-22-2014 02:12 AM
llombardo All mine have always been fixed between 6 months and a year, male or female. I've read and researched and weighed all options including early, later, or never and based on that I made my decision. I did go back and forth with the age but I will never have an intact dog. I've seen to many females with pyometra and not only is it expensive, it can be fatal and very hard on the dog. The last one was a month ago and the dog almost didn't make it. As for males I just don't see any reason to keep them intact.
05-22-2014 01:07 AM
Sarah~ Eko is intact, I was going to neuter him at 2 but he has been such a good dog other than DA and being territorial around the front door that I don't feel the need to unless medically necessary. The humping, marking, testing urine is gross and annoying but I can get over it. I did have Xena spayed at 6 months because I didn't feel like I could handle an intact pair, a female dog in heat, and not to mention it is also required by law in my city that unless you have a permit all APBTs and their mixes must be altered at 6 months.
05-22-2014 12:37 AM
Kiitsu I am not neutering Thor unless I absolutely cannot manage marking and such, if he spontaneously becomes aggressive, or if he is otherwise COMPLETELY unmanageable. Only if all options are exhausted. I may neuter him when he is around a year and a half old, but I rather keep him intact. I think sex-related issues are entirely a matter of management. And I think most people think that these issues are always going to be extreme, when they aren't necessarily.
That being said, it is always the owners choice. I believe in waiting until maturity or not at all for MANY reasons, but that is just my own opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own choice with their own dog.
And for the record, my mother has a neutered male chihuahua that has aggression problems, and also still marks in places that he shouldn't.
05-22-2014 12:30 AM
Anubis_Star
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
But it is not accurate to claim that certain behaviors can not be attributed to the sex hormones. Of course hormones play a role in behavior, just like the loss of hormones play a role (both good and bad on both sides). It's important to be aware of this and prepared to train and manage the dog appropriately when you keep them intact.
thank you
i think you are the only one to acknowledge this!

but in reality you're taking an easy way out


seriously?
these are pets they are not children
pets when i last checked are here for our enjoyment
not an added headache and to make our lives more difficult!

you seem to think having intact pets is some sort of test of good ownership
but i am here to tell ya it is not
it is a choice plain and simple and as i have said before having intact pets does not make you a better owner
just like having altered pets does not make you uneducated

for gosh sake i am surprised nobody has slung out the 'raw is better and if you feed kibble you are a terrible owner' argument yet
that is what this argument is akin to btw
it seems some are ranting on as if to say if you chose early speuter you should not even own a pet!
Well raw IS better but we won't even go there....


I don't think I saw anyone say "you're horrible for neutering young". In fact read where I noted my own fear aggressive boy that was neutered at 4 months old. Zeke was neutered at 9 months old. Now with berlin I know more in the medical field and I've done my own research and my mind has changed on things. But I think it has been commonly stated in this thread, don't have an intact pet if you can't or don't want to handle an intact pet, or you will have problems. So no one has stated that the op is a horrible pet owner.

It's also though just as equally been stated, neutering a dog is NOT going to change fear aggression.

Since when have we not been allowed to state facts for fear of hurting feelings?

You yourself stated intact dogs could have problems like marking, humping, etc. All these problems can be trained out. But if you neuter early to avoid these problems instead of training isn't that.... taking the easy way out?

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05-22-2014 12:15 AM
my boy diesel But it is not accurate to claim that certain behaviors can not be attributed to the sex hormones. Of course hormones play a role in behavior, just like the loss of hormones play a role (both good and bad on both sides). It's important to be aware of this and prepared to train and manage the dog appropriately when you keep them intact.
thank you
i think you are the only one to acknowledge this!

but in reality you're taking an easy way out


seriously?
these are pets they are not children
pets when i last checked are here for our enjoyment
not an added headache and to make our lives more difficult!

you seem to think having intact pets is some sort of test of good ownership
but i am here to tell ya it is not
it is a choice plain and simple and as i have said before having intact pets does not make you a better owner
just like having altered pets does not make you uneducated

for gosh sake i am surprised nobody has slung out the 'raw is better and if you feed kibble you are a terrible owner' argument yet
that is what this argument is akin to btw
it seems some are ranting on as if to say if you chose early speuter you should not even own a pet!
05-21-2014 10:47 PM
dogfaeries Russell is the first intact male that I've had. He's 15 months now, and lives with 2 intact girls. He doesn't hike his leg in his own yard, but does away from home. He would never in a million years mark in the house. He's growing out of the humping stage that he went through several months ago. I was really worried about having an intact male, but he's not been one bit of a problem. He's a pretty dominant dog, but gets along with every shepherd (male or female, al intact) that he's been around.

I had him at the grooming shop yesterday and took him out to pee. He walked over to the telephone pole, hiked up the wrong leg, and peed. Silly boy.
05-21-2014 10:24 PM
Anubis_Star
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A spayed female can have more of an edge than an intact one.

Most of the reasons people cite for early spay/neuter are false, or the amount of energy put into dealing with them is not nearly worth doing surgery to prevent them. Ordinary training can prevent most of them, to the point that most of us who have intact animals do not see any major inconvenience in keeping them intact, except of course the actual blood of the heat cycle.

One dog in a thousand, maybe in ten thousand will go through a wall to get to a bitch in heat, and that dog has probably already been bred. Most of our dogs won't go through a crate if there is a bitch in standing heat in the same house. I could call off my boys to kennel them, who had bitches flagging at them through the fence. Boys are not that hard to keep.

Girls are tougher. But I think if anything, an intact bitch has a better temperament, more gentle, save maybe SSA.


Like I said I just worked berlin on the same field as a bitch in heat and I don't think he or the other 17 month old intact male gsd even glanced at her. Heck, berlin and his littermates haven't even lifted their legs yet, they ALL still squat and pee.

I can't imagine the owner that would just let their dog mark all over the house...

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