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05-23-2014 03:14 PM
middleofnowhere To the OP - It sounds like you didn't really need the flirt pole - your dog was already engaging with toys and tugs. Unfortunately, you thought I dunno what about the flirt pole but used it -- and it backfired.

The current pup is the only pup that's needed a flirt pole - she needed it to build interest in toys outside. Now we have the interest in the toys, the pole rarely comes out.

I think the other folks here have good ideas for regaining interest in other toys.

One thing I have found is that I need to act like that toy is the end of the earth. When she gets it, I need to act like I want it. If I make her work a little bit (or a lot for that matter) to get the toy, it is more valuable (Does this sound like human psychology or what???)
05-23-2014 02:53 PM
Springbrz
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I'm just curious as to why it matters what toy she is interested in? Just for my own curiosity. Roxy's favorite game is 'youkickthesoccerballtomeIcatchitandthenyouchaseme withit" this game can go on forever. Flirt pole -- she LOVES - not really interested in tug or fetch. Fetch to her is she grabs it ..brings it as close as she can for me to try and get it..then she grabs it and runs. If I really "WANT" a fetch , drop it in my lap I have to have some high value treats
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If the op wants to do any kind of protection sport like schutzhund, for example, then the dog needs to have drive for a tug, to later be transitioned over to a sleeve.

Also, as I'm seeing one of my club members struggle with now, lack of drive for other toys can greatly affect things like the dumbbell retrieve. Her dog won't even touch the dumbbell, all he wants is the sleeve. She's tried playing fetch with it, using it like a tug, throwing it around on a long line. Very hard and if he won't get the retrieve down that ends her ipo career.

Lastly play and engagement work makes training so much easier as the pup gets older, and a toy like a ball on a rope is a great reward and motivator for when treats are weaned off.

The average pet dog, no doesn't really matter. But for a sport or working dog it could be a very big deal.

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Aside from the Anubis_Star's answer. It can become an bad obsession. My girl is a pet gsd so no worries about sport issues. But it still caused problems just the same.

My girl went to her flirt pole in the garage every time we opened the door to the garage. She would sit at the door and whine for her pole. If we didn't go play with the pole she didn't what to play and then misbehaved for lack of exercise (we walked and did training, too). We also needed to limit flirt pole because playing with it tore up our yard and the clay became to slick. She started hurting herself from skidding on the clay. That was our experience.
05-23-2014 09:14 AM
petite
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OP, I haven't done flirt pole work with berlin since he was a young pup, but once he had the toy, I would drop the pole, work my way up the line, and then grab the toy and play very mild tug, letting them win it easily.

As well have you taken the same toy, make a lot of fun sounds, and drag it back and forth and the ground? Your hands and arms simply replace the flirt pole line. I see a lot of dogs that otherwise lack interest in play become very stimulated by this

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Thank you so much for your input. Fawn's a smart girl and still waiting in a sit by the cabinet the flirt pole used to live in. She's engaging a little more with the soft tug that used to be on the flirt pole.

It's only 1', should I extend it a bit so I can get it going on the ground or is that perpetuating the issue?

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05-22-2014 10:23 AM
Anubis_Star OP, I haven't done flirt pole work with berlin since he was a young pup, but once he had the toy, I would drop the pole, work my way up the line, and then grab the toy and play very mild tug, letting them win it easily.

As well have you taken the same toy, make a lot of fun sounds, and drag it back and forth and the ground? Your hands and arms simply replace the flirt pole line. I see a lot of dogs that otherwise lack interest in play become very stimulated by this

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05-22-2014 10:19 AM
Anubis_Star If the op wants to do any kind of protection sport like schutzhund, for example, then the dog needs to have drive for a tug, to later be transitioned over to a sleeve.

Also, as I'm seeing one of my club members struggle with now, lack of drive for other toys can greatly affect things like the dumbbell retrieve. Her dog won't even touch the dumbbell, all he wants is the sleeve. She's tried playing fetch with it, using it like a tug, throwing it around on a long line. Very hard and if he won't get the retrieve down that ends her ipo career.

Lastly play and engagement work makes training so much easier as the pup gets older, and a toy like a ball on a rope is a great reward and motivator for when treats are weaned off.

The average pet dog, no doesn't really matter. But for a sport or working dog it could be a very big deal.

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05-22-2014 10:10 AM
lyssa62 I'm just curious as to why it matters what toy she is interested in? Just for my own curiosity. Roxy's favorite game is 'youkickthesoccerballtomeIcatchitandthenyouchaseme withit" this game can go on forever. Flirt pole -- she LOVES - not really interested in tug or fetch. Fetch to her is she grabs it ..brings it as close as she can for me to try and get it..then she grabs it and runs. If I really "WANT" a fetch , drop it in my lap I have to have some high value treats
05-22-2014 09:09 AM
petite
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We had the same problem. We took the flirt pole away. It took a couple weeks for her to totally forget about it, but she did. We didn't use the flirt pole all winter.
Once the obsession was gone tug, fetch and frisbie became interesting. Be patient, your pup will come around.

I got the flirt pole out this past weekend and we had a blast with it. It has since gone out of site. Don't want it to become an obsession, again.
Thank you for the personal experience. I'll keep the flirt pole away until she gets over it and starts to show interest is some other toy. The best I can hope for this week is her chasing her Bumi (boomerang tug thing) into the baby pool. It's a start!

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05-22-2014 01:45 AM
Springbrz We had the same problem. We took the flirt pole away. It took a couple weeks for her to totally forget about it, but she did. We didn't use the flirt pole all winter.
Once the obsession was gone tug, fetch and frisbie became interesting. Be patient, your pup will come around.

I got the flirt pole out this past weekend and we had a blast with it. It has since gone out of site. Don't want it to become an obsession, again.
05-21-2014 10:55 PM
petite She enjoys tug, or I should say, she used to until she discovered the flirt pole. I would like her to regain interest in a more portable toy we can take out with us if possible but nothing in the world exists but the flirt pole right now. She loves it so much I may have overindulged her and created a problem.
05-21-2014 11:01 AM
Steve Strom Not every dog finds tugging with you real rewarding petite. Be patient, don't push it especially while she's teething.
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