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06-02-2014 01:37 PM
blackshep
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Originally Posted by cliffson1 View Post
The hips will improve, but the breed will suffer......
Is that what happened with DM testing?
05-31-2014 07:55 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN I will take a dog with HD any day (in fact, I have!) but the spine, the elbows...
05-31-2014 07:28 AM
cliffson1 The hips will improve, but the breed will suffer......you have to breed dogs instead of hips, IMO, with a careful eye on all observeable faults including hips, but not to point of eliminating important lines/dogs because of hips.
05-29-2014 08:33 AM
blackshep
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Originally Posted by Sabis mom View Post
IMO it would have to be managed much the way DM should be. Test the dogs, be aware of the results and breed accordingly. Responsible, diligent breeders could put this to good use, but just tossing lines that carry a gene is not in the best interest of the breed.
I agree. I see both sides, but it's possible to still keep the good genetics of temperament and working ability, while reducing the chances of passing the HD gene on. People do it with DM testing, there's no reason it couldn't be done with HD as well.

I can't see any reason a breeder would not want to know it, at least. Might be a way to help breed the HD gene out over the long term or even just reduce it somewhat, and that is never a bad thing.
05-16-2014 12:21 PM
Sabis mom IMO it would have to be managed much the way DM should be. Test the dogs, be aware of the results and breed accordingly. Responsible, diligent breeders could put this to good use, but just tossing lines that carry a gene is not in the best interest of the breed.
05-16-2014 11:19 AM
BlueDogs77 This could lead to some serious genetic bottlenecking if people aren't careful. I know it has already been done at least once in both America and Germany by two studs who were so heavily bred upon; Lance of Fran Jo and Uran v. WildsteigerLand, that in the 1999 edition of The German Shepherd Dog (by Dog Fancy) an article stated, "America and Germany have bred themselves into a corner."

Let's hope history doesn't repeat itself. Sigh...
05-13-2014 04:07 PM
lhczth
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Originally Posted by Chris Wild View Post
Exactly. Over focus on any one trait causes loss of other equally, and sometimes more important, traits.
Bingo!!
05-13-2014 03:44 PM
wolfstraum and realistically - I seriously doubt that any significant percentage of dogs are going to test free of that possibility...it is too widespread, too common...Say a good producing female has 50 pups - and 45 pass hip certs, and 40 carry a gene to produce it ....you will throw out most of the next generation even with passing hips....

Lee
05-13-2014 02:34 PM
Chris Wild
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Originally Posted by brembo View Post
I could see some great genes getting flushed because of the possibility of HD.
Exactly. Over focus on any one trait causes loss of other equally, and sometimes more important, traits.
05-13-2014 12:48 PM
brembo I could see some great genes getting flushed because of the possibility of HD. As with any new tech or ability to predict outcomes the information must be used wisely or systemic damage can occur. Human's track record when dabbling in the matters of omnipotent being is spotty, restraint and care seem to fall to the wayside when such dazzling possibilities present themselves.
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