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05-07-2014 04:55 PM
carmspack I don't use kibble , and when I recommend one it would be Orijen, so I don't have a favourite one , Purina or BB.

Blue Buffalo did not single out Purina . When other companies are mentioned , and BB did make a comparison graph using several , that is still exposure. It did not say "they" were bad .

So what happens to this then Purina Dog Chow Light and Healthy | Review and Rating

quote "
The first ingredient in this dog food is corn. Corn is an inexpensive and controversial cereal grain. And aside from its energy content, this grain is of only modest nutritional value to a dog.
For this reason, we do not consider corn a preferred component in any dog food.
The second ingredient is soybean hulls. The hulls are the skins of soybeans and a waste product remaining after processing soybeans into oil and meal.
Soybean hulls are often used as inexpensive fillers to dilute the energy content of various animal feeds.
We consider soybean hulls a lower quality pet food ingredient and of little nutritional value to a dog.
The third ingredient lists meat and bone meal, a dry “rendered product from mammal tissues, including bone, exclusive of any added blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents”.1"
05-07-2014 04:44 PM
Galathiel I'm not sure why Purina filed a civil suit except to make a big stink. I find this quite 'slimy' on their part as well. Not that I use their foods, but I certainly wouldn't after such a tasteless action on their part. Surely, if they had enough evidence, it would have been turned over to become a criminal suit?

I have no idea if BB is guilty of false advertisement or not. I am not impassioned for or against them. I'm feeling a bit passionate in my dislike for Purina at the moment, however.
05-07-2014 04:18 PM
kr16 Slimy Blue has responded

BLUE Buffalo Response to Nestle Purina Lawsuit
05-07-2014 02:35 PM
jetdog Have never liked or trusted Blue Buffalo since the whole recall over the excessive levels of certain vitamins in their foods. I did once try a bag of their Wilderness just because I thought maybe, just maybe, I was making too big of a deal out of nothing. All 3 dogs I tried feeding it to (by mixing it in) promptly refused the food over numerous days of trying to incorporate it. As soon as I removed the Wilderness they ate up with gusto. Maybe my dogs were smarter than I was about food choices?

Anyway, Purina does use some ingredients considered inferior or garbage BUT at least they list it on the bag for a consumer to see and make an informed decision. Blue is NOT listing the ingredients on their bags, like chicken or animal by-products, and is in fact advertising aggressively that they DON'T put those ingredients in their food.
That is the difference, and of course Purina will jump all over that because Blue is a major competitor!

I say "Go Purina!" And FWIW I know a lot of people that use and swear by the Pro Plan formulas, especially the Sensitive Skin and Stomach one, and their dogs do great. I can't say the same about Blue because most people I've talked to that tried it switched off of it rather quickly.
05-07-2014 12:23 PM
GSDAlphaMom I don't like either one as well. The good foods don't spend money advertising, they put it in the food. I just know from personal experience that Blue is hiding information. Four or five years ago I tried and tried to get their cal/pho max numbers and hit a road block from every angle and I went up the ladder as far as I could get. Someone on the thread said they had worked for them before and couldn't get it. They put their minimum on the bag and will give those numbers when asked. If you call them out that those are their minimums and the maximum is what you are looking for (very important that puppies don't get too high cal/pho) they won't give them. With all their bragging and comparison ads I believe if their numbers were within range they would boost about it.
The other companies I've contacted that didn't list max on the bag had no problem providing me the information.

Purina may very well have the same practice, I don't know because I've never contacted them. Since I know Blue's practices I'm for anyone that takes them down.
05-07-2014 11:21 AM
carmspack I know, I read the legals that Jocoyn provided.
I don't like either one -- I don't like the emotional blackmail, the pet-parent slant .

I see that they don't claim to be grain free -- this at the bottom of the link Blanketback provided ,

very faint white on beige background -- this is a cut and paste of that . "plus wholesome whole grains"

"Natural and Healthy Dog Food with Natural Ingredients
Now you can feed your puppy, adult dog or senior dog with the same care you feed your family. All of our natural dog foods have real meat, fish, or poultry as the first ingredient, plus wholesome whole grains, garden vegetables and healthy fruit. All of our dry dog food formulas contain exclusive LifeSource® Bits — a precise blend of nutrients, including vitamins, minerals and antioxidants. These include ingredients that help support a dog’s immune system, support his specific life stage requirements and help maintain a healthy oxidative balance. In addition, all BLUE healthy dog foods contain NO chicken (or poultry) by-product meals, artificial colors, flavors or preservatives and NO corn, wheat or soy.
05-07-2014 11:12 AM
Blanketback Blue Buffalo - Compare Dog Food with our Dog Food Comparison Test

I think that's the issue, and they would have stayed under the radar if they weren't using other companies as a comparison to promote their own kibble.
05-07-2014 11:07 AM
carmspack WHAT exactly is the definition of the chicken by-product meal.

It could be indigestible feather which has no value , or it could be the offal, and undeveloped eggs which contributes in a nutrient positive way.
It could include feet , which some of us go out of our way to buy as a source for glucosamine and chondroitin to offer raw , dried , or as an ingredient for a bone broth .
Some cultures are as crazy for chicken feet as we are for the wings .

What Exactly Are Animal By-Products?

Basically, animal by-products are what’s left of a slaughtered animal after the edible parts have been removed. They include the waste2 of meat processing not intended for human consumption. For example…
  • Feet
  • Backs
  • Livers
  • Lungs
  • Heads
  • Brains
  • Spleen
  • Frames
  • Kidneys
  • Stomachs
  • Intestines
  • Undeveloped eggs
But there are exceptions…
Giblets (livers, hearts, gizzards and necks) as well as other organs can be sold as edible meats or used generically to make hot dogs, bologna and sausage.
05-07-2014 10:48 AM
MustLoveGSDs They are both awful companies that make awful pet food. This will be entertaining to watch unfold.
05-07-2014 10:44 AM
LaRen616 I have fed Blue Buffalo to my cats and dogs and I had no issues, I know friends that still use them.

If I have to choose a side, it will always be Blue over Purina. To me Purina is garbage.
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