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|07-02-2014 08:35 AM|
I wanted to update. After the elbows went DJD1, I went to the rehab/sports vet to come up with a conditioning program and we are working him the underwater treadmill once a week. I intend to continue to keep him in top form.
We were working him on a trot and she has ZERO concerns about those elbows! They extend well and have great range of motion. You can, however see a difference between the left hip and the right hip with the right hip having greater (slightly) range of motion. Mind you OFA went 1, exc and 2 good on the hip ratings and it is the left hip that has slightly less coverage. So not bad at all but relative to one another there is a slight imbalance we are working with.
FWIW, the x-rays are reversed and the left hip really is on the left of the x-ray.
So this is "beyond OFA" going into the biomechanics of it all. It is neat in the treadmill and I need to remember to shoot some video.
|05-15-2014 06:16 PM|
|jocoyn||The article pretty much explains it. It is a rating when they see signs of ossification on the ridge of the elbow but no other signs of dysplasia such as an unuited aconeal process or a fractured coronoid process.........I see a lot of debate as to whether or not there is any clinical significance. Probably best to avoid in breeding unless there are compelling reasons to use the dog with it, but it sounds like it rarely progresses to cause problems. The best way to see is to look at the article and it has left and right mixed up but it shows the little fuzziness they are looking for (a red arrow) then you can see it on his elbows.|
|05-15-2014 06:08 PM|
Originally Posted by jocoyn View Post
I have had my share of HD in dogs over the years, very familiar with terminology there, but what does "DJD1 both elbows" mean? None of mine ever had elbow problems, so I'm ignorant there!
Great for his hips, though!
|05-15-2014 04:54 PM|
And this is a good educational article. I am not freaking. It is one more strike against breeding him in the future, but that was never a primary consideration on my part. I would still take another from the motherline! His sire is linebred on cordon-an-sat so there is nothing obscure about that! No worry about it becoming rare. The motherline though, rather unique. Fortunately....it will be preserved.
|05-15-2014 04:29 PM|
The votes are in
OFA Good on the hips. 1 excellent, 2 good
DJD1 both elbows - unanimous. My read was right on the elbows. It is a good educational film to look at. No signs of any elbow disorder other than a bit of fuzzines (osteoclasts) on the aconeal ridge which may or may not be symptomatic of any process.
|05-15-2014 03:34 PM|
|jocoyn||Yes and the answers as to statistical reliabiity are on Orthopedic Foundation for Animals - just bounce around on their site. I am not sure prelims are judged at less than 12 months but I am not sure. I did not do that but it is all there. A new post would be a good way to get info on that.|
|05-15-2014 03:01 PM|
|gsdheeler||A question a little off topic...Do Prelim Xrays get sent in to OFA? And how reliable are Prelims. in determining joint rating as an adult. (H&E) (Pup will be xrayed at 5 months)|
|05-14-2014 12:12 PM|
Coming down to the wire. My vet said good and normal but I think those elbows are going DJD1. ......
I am not freaking out but look at the aconeal ridge near the joint. ........both elbows...right more pronounced. Dog moves fine (and even the horse folks who pick up every little aberration say that) - and I know a number of dogs who have DJD1 and never shown a sign of any problem. Obviously I will report when they come in ...
Regardless I am taking his x-rays and him to a sports/rehab vet who helped out a teammate with an injury to help me come up with the best plan for optimizing his structural integrity. Also attending a class on "extending the working life of your dog" at he Cadaver Seminar at WCU this weekend.
|04-30-2014 12:01 AM|
Mine have been taking two to three weeks.
When I get a rating back I also call and ask for the "vote" they will tell you how each vet graded them.
My vet, who is well know for OFA's has always been spot on on his assessment. The last couple he said Good, any other breed excellent, and when I call it's been one excellent, two good. LOL
One of these days I'm going to get that reversed and get the two excellents.
|04-29-2014 09:58 PM|
|GatorDog||I called the office 2 weeks after submitting and they had results already.|
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