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05-08-2014 01:02 PM
selzer Ah then, maybe it is good to live in such a backwards area.

I went to class on Tuesday night, first class this year, as it is outside at my trainer's home. I was pleasantly surprised. Usually one or two dogs are ready to eat other dogs, and I spend half my time worrying about someone getting bitten. With the number of young dogs, yearlings, even a 14 week old pup, everyone was very tolerant of one another, and my girl, who I thought would be pretty nutty as she turned 1 in January and her last time out was the end of classes in October or November. She was a little wary of the people, but had no problems whatsoever with the critters.

Everyone is on lead. Every owner is handling their dog, and responsible for their dog. Dogs are not allowed to have romp sessions. I took Lassie to tractor supply today, and she actually walked up to a guy and sniffed him, yay! She just needs a few more outings and she will be back on track. I hope.
05-08-2014 09:41 AM
shepherdmom
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Of course. Training is always good. If does build up confidence. I'm not fond of off leash training and all the places I go to allow them to stay on leash unless I feel completely comfortable.
Wish I could find something like what I used to do back in the day. This whole dog park style socialization scares me.
05-08-2014 12:29 AM
llombardo
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Will give that a try next time she is home. Still want to get him some training though.
Of course. Training is always good. If does build up confidence. I'm not fond of off leash training and all the places I go to allow them to stay on leash unless I feel completely comfortable.
05-08-2014 12:19 AM
shepherdmom
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How about having him on a leash and just ignoring him when your daughter comes over . No eye contact, no treats, and no fast movements . Maybe just sit on the couch and watch a tv show With no interaction .
Will give that a try next time she is home. Still want to get him some training though.
05-08-2014 12:07 AM
llombardo How about having him on a leash and just ignoring him when your daughter comes over . No eye contact, no treats, and no fast movements . Maybe just sit on the couch and watch a tv show With no interaction .
05-07-2014 11:00 PM
shepherdmom
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I think that in part it depends on what you want to do with your dog. So many pet-people (I know, but) want to use dog parks and doggy day cares, that I think there is a real push in the area of off-lead from the get go. Since I want to show my dogs, and I do not want my dogs to see another dog and think it is play time, I want my dogs to see other dogs and not freak, not have much of a reaction at all. For me, the best type of class is one where we work next to other people who are working with their dogs on leash. Dogs come off lead in advanced classes during individual runs.

The way my trainer says, for puppies, they all have to be so close in age and power, to let them free for all without someone becoming a bully and other dogs being bullied, that it is really hard to get a class like that.
Well am a pet person but I don't want dog parks or doggie day care. I've heard that pet homes are the hardest and I believe it. We go for months without visitors (winter) but when we do get visitors I expect my dogs to be ok with that. The only dogs beside my own that they will ever see is the dog walker, maybe some strays that happen to wander past my yard, and whomever they happen to see at the vet... But I expect them to behaved when we do go to the vet.

Crud I just don't know what to do. Training has changed so much since the last time I did a class. All this off leash stuff scares the heck out of me. I can see it going bad really fast.
05-07-2014 10:29 PM
shepherdmom
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For Raven's puppy classes everyone was pretty much as Selzer said, the same age and size so when they did have off leash time there were few issues. One pup, once got a little growly and in everyone's face, but that pup was basically put in time out, back on leash, and doing focus exercises. Also, the play times were rarely longer then several minutes, with us interrupting them frequently with recalls in the middle of the play, with the final recall being when leashes were put back on and pups were asked to now focus. When we worked on heeling the pups were able to ignore each other and focus quite efficiently. Raven was off lead heeling at this point and a stern leave it if she turned toward another dog was enough to dissuade her and get her focus back on me.

All that to say I don't believe *some* off leash play time is bad, but it shouldn't carry on too long, nor should any one dog be allowed to get into anyone's face.
Both of these introductory sessions were adult dogs.... The puppy class in Carson doesn't start for another two weeks but I'm am leaning against that one, I just didn't see that much control over the unleashed dogs. If that was the adults I'm afraid to see what the puppy one is like.

The one in Yerington that I went to today will always be with adult dogs... She will assess and decide where he is training wise and place him with other dogs of similar skills and temperament. Unfortunately there are not enough puppies to have a dedicated puppy class. I think with this one I will probably get more one on one time with the instructor.

My choices are fairly limited. My other option is a 120 mile, 2 hour round trip to Reno.
05-07-2014 09:35 PM
Tattersail For Raven's puppy classes everyone was pretty much as Selzer said, the same age and size so when they did have off leash time there were few issues. One pup, once got a little growly and in everyone's face, but that pup was basically put in time out, back on leash, and doing focus exercises. Also, the play times were rarely longer then several minutes, with us interrupting them frequently with recalls in the middle of the play, with the final recall being when leashes were put back on and pups were asked to now focus. When we worked on heeling the pups were able to ignore each other and focus quite efficiently. Raven was off lead heeling at this point and a stern leave it if she turned toward another dog was enough to dissuade her and get her focus back on me.

All that to say I don't believe *some* off leash play time is bad, but it shouldn't carry on too long, nor should any one dog be allowed to get into anyone's face.
05-07-2014 08:52 PM
selzer I think that in part it depends on what you want to do with your dog. So many pet-people (I know, but) want to use dog parks and doggy day cares, that I think there is a real push in the area of off-lead from the get go. Since I want to show my dogs, and I do not want my dogs to see another dog and think it is play time, I want my dogs to see other dogs and not freak, not have much of a reaction at all. For me, the best type of class is one where we work next to other people who are working with their dogs on leash. Dogs come off lead in advanced classes during individual runs.

The way my trainer says, for puppies, they all have to be so close in age and power, to let them free for all without someone becoming a bully and other dogs being bullied, that it is really hard to get a class like that.
05-07-2014 06:08 PM
shepherdmom Ok so completely different experience today at this other class. Dogs still all off leash. *sigh* but trainer handed us terrible cans as we walked in and we had to shake can if anyone got too in the face. There were more sizes of dogs & more dogs... The in your face dogs seemed to be happy playing with each other and not bothering Dude. Trainer seemed to be far more on top of things. I liked this one much better and I liked the trainer much better. I'm trying to decided if I should stick with her or keep looking. Her training classes start off one on one and then she decides which class to put you in. That way she knows exactly where the dog is at. It is $120 for 6 weeks which seems about normal.
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