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04-28-2014 02:59 PM
Sabis mom
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Originally Posted by zyppi View Post
No, but I had a pup once that had what I'd call 'dead eyes.' There was no normal connection.

I had children at home and after working with a vet and a trainer, I payed to have him boarded with trainer until we found a home with adult, experienced dog person who wanted him.

Broke me heart, but those eyes, IMO, portended no good.

Anyone else noticed those eyes in an unreliable dog?
When I first got Bud, my husband noted that right before he attacked his eyes would go 'still'. It was sort of like watching everything drain away, I spent countless hours sitting by his crate talking to him in those first few months. It used to send shivers down my spine when his eyes did that, and I am ever so lucky he was half the size he is now.
04-28-2014 05:02 AM
CindyMDBecker Owned a Caucasian Ovcharka. Steadily became more and more aggressive toward us. Dangerously aggressive. I've owned many German shepherds from all walks of life ... can handle and overcome a LOT. The CO put me in WAY over my head. Breeder was stumped. Professional trainer refused us. The dog died (had to be PTS) due to sudden kidney failure at 7 months old ... honestly think maybe underlying health issue triggered this. He could be very loving but progressively got vicious. Broke my heart because I felt like I failed him. And the kidney failure sickened everyone ... though at least he's at peace and nobody got bit.
04-28-2014 12:41 AM
Vagus
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I grew up in the country, our neighbor raised golden labs. They had a wonderful bitch named penny, who I practically grew up with. She was about 8 yrs old and had a litter of 9 pups, I think they were about 4 weeks old. I was 7 yrs old. I was over visiting, and she looked at me, then at the pups-and proceeded to kill every single one of them. She then turned on me. We were all outside of the barn (she had brought the pups out, I was a kid who by then had learned the hard way to stay the heck away from litters and moms). She had "dead eyes". She tore up my leg pretty good before the neighbor got her off of me. The next time I saw those dead eyes, they were my husband's upon returning from 'Nam. Scared me just as much.
This is so sad in so many ways
04-28-2014 12:40 AM
llombardo Years ago when I worked at the vet there was quite a few dobermans that had to be put down. All were in good homes but just snapped and attacked there own owners. The thought amongst the vets was brain lesions due to inbreeding. Some very nice dogs were put to sleep.
04-28-2014 12:37 AM
Juliem24 I grew up in the country, our neighbor raised golden labs. They had a wonderful bitch named penny, who I practically grew up with. She was about 8 yrs old and had a litter of 9 pups, I think they were about 4 weeks old. I was 7 yrs old. I was over visiting, and she looked at me, then at the pups-and proceeded to kill every single one of them. She then turned on me. We were all outside of the barn (she had brought the pups out, I was a kid who by then had learned the hard way to stay the heck away from litters and moms). She had "dead eyes". She tore up my leg pretty good before the neighbor got her off of me. The next time I saw those dead eyes, they were my husband's upon returning from 'Nam. Scared me just as much.
04-27-2014 11:50 PM
zyppi No, but I had a pup once that had what I'd call 'dead eyes.' There was no normal connection.

I had children at home and after working with a vet and a trainer, I payed to have him boarded with trainer until we found a home with adult, experienced dog person who wanted him.

Broke me heart, but those eyes, IMO, portended no good.

Anyone else noticed those eyes in an unreliable dog?
04-25-2014 11:27 PM
Susan_GSD_mom There are imperfections in every creature on earth... I knew an Arabian stallion who snapped years ago. Arabs have absolutely the best temperament of any breed, even the stallions. This particular horse had never been mistreated, however the owners knew he was not to be trusted, but because of his bloodline they managed his psychosis, for lack of a better word. During a photo shoot he broke free from his handler and went after the photographer--he had to be shot and killed on the spot. I am sure there are even GSDs this could happen to, but I fortunately have never experienced one (or any dog, actually).

Susan
04-24-2014 04:35 PM
onyx'girl
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Originally Posted by lhczth View Post
Yes, actually a whole litter of dogs that seemed to not be wired right. One male, 2.5 years old mauled his handler as she went to put him in his kennel. Another at around 7 got aggressive towards people he had known all his life. Was put down. Two others were dead before 6 months. The one I had was almost feral. The breeder had a friend that wanted to attempt to work with her. When she went to remove her from the crate, she ended up attacking her. She was put down the next day (she was 4.5 months). We lost track of two of them. One other was OK, but she died of cancer at a very young age.
what was the pedigree on that litter?
I was chatting recently with someone who has a Mal and in that litter there were several who weren't wired right...she keeps hers at home under management, but a few of the others have been put down due to aggression that didn't always have a trigger.
04-24-2014 04:21 PM
lhczth Yes, actually a whole litter of dogs that seemed to not be wired right. One male, 2.5 years old mauled his handler as she went to put him in his kennel. Another at around 7 got aggressive towards people he had known all his life. Was put down. Two others were dead before 6 months. The one I had was almost feral. The breeder had a friend that wanted to attempt to work with her. When she went to remove her from the crate, she ended up attacking her. She was put down the next day (she was 4.5 months). We lost track of two of them. One other was OK, but she died of cancer at a very young age.
04-24-2014 03:07 PM
DaniFani
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Yes. A female we got as a puppy from another breeder who was perfectly fine, social and stable until close to 3 years old when she suddenly developed a form of rage syndrome. She would zone out, her eyes would glaze over and she'd attack anything that moved. Then a minute or so later she'd be back to normal, completely unaware that anything had happened. Obviously this was something medical, but it was not treatable or manageable. She was PTS.
Was there a "trigger"?? This is very interesting to me, I always assume some kind of chemical imbalance or brain misfiring. My GSD before my current one started exhibiting aggression through confusion. The vets hypothesized that because of his heart condition his systems weren't getting enough oxygen (this was seen through kidney/renal failure and digestive shutdown), eventually it was his brain that was affected and all of a sudden he wouldn't recognize anyone.

It happened twice, once to me and once to my husband, before we had to put the dog down. He stared right through you, obviously had no idea who you were, hackles up, growling, inching towards you...it was terrifying. Both times he snapped out of it, but those were some long seconds.
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