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07-06-2014 05:31 PM
David Winners
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Originally Posted by MariaCarin View Post
i'm looking for a rescue to pull a gs for me urgently do you know what i can do?
Starting your own thread would be a good place to start. Adding information about the dog, it's location and the circumstances would be helpful as well.

David Winners
07-06-2014 03:48 PM
MariaCarin i'm looking for a rescue to pull a gs for me urgently do you know what i can do?
04-30-2014 10:48 PM
YORCHI FWIW, we used hand sanitizer on our hands before entering the house and touching the puppies and parents. Then we washed our hands and used hand sanitizer again before getting into our car and coming home.
04-30-2014 08:56 PM
selzer
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
The pup must be exposed to the disease.
i know that lol
however the op exposed the pups in all likelihood when they went to visit unless there was a tub of disinfectant by the door when they walked in since parvo is everywhere
flies can transmit the disease even if nobody visits
and if they take the pups to the vet selzer you have said in numerous other threads that is another way they get sick
So far, I have taken every litter to the vet. I do not let them crawl around on the floor. But they go to the vet to get examined and their first shots. I always ask before people touch them, "no parvo or anything yucky today?" They always say no. But, disease can be present without even knowing it in the incubation stage, so it is always a possibility. You can be careful and ask people to wash their hands first. Definitely do not let the puppy examine other dogs' poop. But the 15-20 minutes that they are there, they MAY get a disease.

At 7 weeks, even 5 weeks, they can actually support a fever, so chances are they are not going to DIE from something that an older dog coughs once or twice from, like canine herpes, which is actually everywhere, moreso even than parvo or distemper. You all don't here about it much because by the time you get your puppies their temperature is up to 101.5 and a fever of 102 or 103 knocks it out. People never realize their pup is sick. But, breeders know about it because new puppies are at 96 degrees and cannot support a fever that can kill it. It will cause massive internal bleeding and can wipe out an entire litter. So, you are right, I always warn when someone suggests taking a bitch and pups in for a check after whelping. Any illness can be devastating for young puppies.

In the 20 minutes you are at the vet for first shots, you might be exposed to parvo if it is there. A fly might have been on an offering outside, and then came in and sat on the table, and maybe it is enough to transmit the disease. Maybe. But in a shelter atmosphere, those flies are everywhere. They are moving from poop to poop and puppies in the shelter are so much more likely to become infected being there 24/7, in a kennel, bored, eating poop, exposed.
04-30-2014 02:30 PM
Madisonmj97
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Originally Posted by Melissa98409 View Post
I paid $100.00 for Jericho and couldn't be more happy with him. I happened to pay much less then you and found the same happiness.
And that ^ is exactly what I was saying.
04-30-2014 12:07 AM
my boy diesel The pup must be exposed to the disease.
i know that lol
however the op exposed the pups in all likelihood when they went to visit unless there was a tub of disinfectant by the door when they walked in since parvo is everywhere
flies can transmit the disease even if nobody visits
and if they take the pups to the vet selzer you have said in numerous other threads that is another way they get sick
04-29-2014 11:54 PM
Betty
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Originally Posted by YORCHI View Post

I made up my mind, and I'm feeling good about the choice I made.
And that is all that matters!

Sounds to me like the pup has won the lottery!
04-29-2014 03:28 PM
Stevenzachsmom I volunteer with an awesome GSD rescue. We pull shepherd and shepherd mix puppies from shelters - often with mama dog. It is not unusual for at least some of those puppies to die, before we even get them into foster homes. Shelters and rescues can know all about scheduling for vaccinations and deworming, but once the puppy is exposed to something in the shelter, that is a moot point.

It is true that there are never any guarantees. In this case, the OP already adopted a GSD puppy from a shelter that contracted distemper. That puppy is dead.
04-29-2014 03:19 PM
selzer
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
there is no guarantee these pups wont become ill with whatever either
in fact good rescues or shelters usually know a good deal more about vaccination and deworming schedules than a person who had an oopsie litter
I disagree with this in general. Parvo and distemper do not just develop in puppies. The pup must be exposed to the disease. If the dam is in a family who cares for their dogs, she has probably been vaccinated and probably has sufficient antibodies in her system, so that the pups will probably be protected up to 8 or 10 weeks, maybe longer.

Puppies that have been dumped at the shelter are far more likely to have come from situations where people are not very conscientious right out of the gate. And the chances of being exposed to dogs from owners who are not very conscientious is just way higher. So if it is about stacking the deck in our favor, go to the breeder who bred their pets, but is caring for them, over the breeder who dumped the dam and pups in the shelter.

As for shelter workers knowing more about vaccine schedules, that may be. We know that if this breeder is going to vaccinate at 5 weeks, they are not very knowledgeable in this area. But, depending on when the dam's immunity wears off, could be any time if she was vaccinated, 7 weeks, 9 weeks, we don't know. So, the chances that the puppy, even vaccinated at the shelter will have been vaccinated AFTER the immunity wore off, and AFTER it has had the chance for the antibodies to build up in its system, but BEFORE it is exposed is really almost impossible. And a lot of shelters, in realizing this, when they have a parvo outbreak, they euthanize all of them, all the pups, dogs that could have possibly been exposed in the shelter. That is what they do here.

Getting puppies out of shelter situations may be a higher priority, but getting a puppy that isn't seriously ill out of the gate, you are better off going with that breeder. Even an imperfect one that is just breeding pets for $200.

If the OP has dealt with distemper already from a shelter, than I can certainly understand avoiding the shelter altogether.
04-29-2014 02:45 PM
my boy diesel there is no guarantee these pups wont become ill with whatever either
in fact good rescues or shelters usually know a good deal more about vaccination and deworming schedules than a person who had an oopsie litter
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