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07-10-2014 10:09 PM
JoeyG
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Originally Posted by Espa View Post
Sadly some dogs are just bad dogs, like people. Who knows why, all your good intentions and chances sometimes just don't matter.
Sorry to say but I completely disagree, dogs are not "bad" but simply animals acting on instinct. Our failures as humans to properly balance the dogs and to see their full potential is often what fails them.

Myah's mom, I do believe the rescue failed you by placing him so quickly with you and not giving you both time to see how the relationship developed nor seeing any signs the dog may have hinted at.
07-09-2014 07:08 AM
BorderKelpie Best wishes!
07-09-2014 03:27 AM
Ellimaybel
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Originally Posted by Myah's Mom View Post
I just put in an application with a rescue organization. I am hopeful! I filled everything out honestly and for "previous dogs", I listed "GSD - fostered (not a good situation; please call me). I have nothing to hide and I know there are a lot of good people that network across organizations, so I'm hoping someone realizes what a good home one of their rescue babies would have with me and we get to talk. I just love these magnificent dogs and hope for a right match.

Wish me luck!
Praying for you! No looking back and wondering "what if". Don't carry over any fears, take your own advice and GO SLOW! Best wishes!
07-09-2014 02:54 AM
Myah's Mom I just put in an application with a rescue organization. I am hopeful! I filled everything out honestly and for "previous dogs", I listed "GSD - fostered (not a good situation; please call me). I have nothing to hide and I know there are a lot of good people that network across organizations, so I'm hoping someone realizes what a good home one of their rescue babies would have with me and we get to talk. I just love these magnificent dogs and hope for a right match.

Wish me luck!
04-22-2014 03:01 PM
Bridget [QUOTE=RebelGSD;5403441]Adoption events are useful and give exposure to dogs. However they can be extremely stressful to some dogs, especially to GSDs that tend to be sensitive. Many people and dogs makes for a tough environment that may set up a dog to fail. Also, some potential adopters may approach these dogs in a not very dog savvy way. People love to hug dogs, and not every GSD will allow a stranger to hug them.
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I don't know how to do the quote thing apparently, but I agree with Rebel. Our shelter attends adoption events, but only with dogs we are almost 100% sure are friendly. I don't think they should have expected you to bring him. Sorry you had to go through all this.
04-22-2014 02:42 PM
Espa
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I think most rescues do their best to match new fosters with easy dogs. It is in nobody's interest to set up volunteers or dog for failure. Animals can change over time and problems can develop.
While your proposals are good and make sense, I wonder whether many items are possible in severely understaffed groups. Even the large one I volunteered for would not have the manpower to implement what you are proposing. I think that a rescue as a volunteer organization cannot be compared with a well staffed and very well paid professional setting. I know that the large group I volunteered for did not have the manpower to hold my hand. All volunteers had full time jobs and families, we all did our best to help the animals.

Sadly some dogs are just bad dogs, like people. Who knows why, all your good intentions and chances sometimes just don't matter.
04-21-2014 12:09 AM
RebelGSD I think most rescues do their best to match new fosters with easy dogs. It is in nobody's interest to set up volunteers or dog for failure. Animals can change over time and problems can develop.
While your proposals are good and make sense, I wonder whether many items are possible in severely understaffed groups. Even the large one I volunteered for would not have the manpower to implement what you are proposing. I think that a rescue as a volunteer organization cannot be compared with a well staffed and very well paid professional setting. I know that the large group I volunteered for did not have the manpower to hold my hand. All volunteers had full time jobs and families, we all did our best to help the animals.
04-20-2014 07:18 PM
Myah's Mom
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OH Myah's Mom, I'm so sorry. I have found that many volunteers for rescues really can't read dogs. It sounds like this dog was not properly evaluated by the rescue and he never should have been at the rescue event given the behaviors he was showing at home. I don't think this is your fault in any way from what you've said.
Thank you and bless you. Posting my story was not about finding fault. It's all in the past and, like another responder said, it was the culmination of mistakes all across the board - it really could have happened to anybody. I'm just so perplexed about not being able to help out, because of this.

The purpose of posting my story was to encourage prospective first time fosters and volunteers to take it slow, and from the rescue standpoint, to have a more systematic training and not be so quick to judge. Gosh, there's a lot more than that to learn from it all. The more I think about it, the more things I come up with. I think this story bears being told, as it could happen to any rescue.

I love what the rescues do, and these are magnificent dogs.

My first experience was just so tragic. And my big boy was a flip-the-switch kind of guy.

I will add...I do get a bit frustrated reading dog's bio's online and they say nothing but good things. None of what I reported went online about this dog. Other dogs whom were known aggressors also had positive bio's. I do think that is a big problem. I understand the need to not scare people off. But they have to understand that people read these bio's and get their heart set on a certain dog or two before coming into an event. Then, they are baffled why counselors (rightfully so) steer them to another dog.

I know the humane society has certain ways of stating issues that don't put people off, like "I take my time in meeting new people" and "It takes me a while to absorb sights and sounds". To dog people, we know the full spectrum what those statements mean (mild to severe).

Anyway, thank you, everybody. Bless you. And bless the volunteers and rescues who help these dogs.
04-20-2014 07:01 PM
Jax08 OH Myah's Mom, I'm so sorry. I have found that many volunteers for rescues really can't read dogs. It sounds like this dog was not properly evaluated by the rescue and he never should have been at the rescue event given the behaviors he was showing at home. I don't think this is your fault in any way from what you've said.
04-20-2014 03:39 PM
Myah's Mom Thank you. Time has been healing, and I love my 14 month old girl.

But to learn from this, I would suggest to people (like me) wanting to get involved with the breed and rescues:

Go slow. It's hard, when your heartstrings pull and you really want to get involved. But for you and the dogs, go slow.

Spend a lot of time with the dog you think you might want to foster or adopt. Don't bring a dog home on the first day (which is what I did).

When you bring him/her home, keep an emotional distance - perhaps like if you were going to watch someone else's dog (lots of care, but not with the heart open wide). It's the "trial" period.

Spend time observing dogs behavior, what other volunteers say about a dog and listening to how they counselors present the dogs to prospective adopters. It should all match.

If the rescue and counselors know what they are doing, listen to their advice about the dog's temperament.

For rescues, I would give this advice:

Go slow with new volunteers and do thorough training. Help them go slow, as well. There's lots to do to help.

Disclose everything about the dog to prospective fosters and adopters.

Don't take in so many dogs that you can't properly place them.

Don't have so many dogs at an event that overwhelm the supervision. (I would see 1 volunteer show up with 4 dogs; 1:4 ratio probably isn't safe).

Partner-pair your new volunteers for longer than just a few days. Have a systematic way of training (Phase 1 - help with setups/take downs or admin work, Phase 2 - partner paired for dog handling, Phase 3 - transport to events, Phase 4 - Supervised dog handling at the kennel and events, Phase 5 - Foster a softer temperament dog, and do play dates with other volunteer fosters).

Don't slam the door people for mistakes, but learn from them.

I work in healthcare, and the stakes are high for medical mistakes. When they happen, it would be easy to fire the person on the ground responsible, keep hush-hush and trudge on. However, it isn't effective. What we managers do is come alongside the person, look at processes, policies and procedures and come up with a risk management plan, realizing the mistake could have happened with anyone. People need support. And sure, if with the proper support and training, negligence happened, then that's another story.

Thoughts?
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