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04-18-2014 11:16 AM
K9POPPY
Composting

We have tried every conceivable waste management system available for composting. We now use a commercial pick-up. The time and expense for composting correctly is expansive, but is an awesome idea. IMHO, Bob
04-18-2014 12:03 AM
carmspack
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I feed raw and there is so little waste when I scoop poop. If I had to throw it away every week, it would amount to a small plastic garbage bag(for three adult dogs). I toss it over the fence into the wooded area where the poison ivy is heavy. It is chalky/crumbles within a few days and doesn't really smell.
Nobody walks around there and I hope someday the poop will kill all that ivy!
exactly ! there is no smell and there are no flies as there is no organic material . Nothing for worms as the stool pretty much reduces to calcium mineral from the boney material not digested. The "bone meal" is good for trees and shrubs as it helps with water uptake and plants more drought resistant.
04-17-2014 08:17 PM
Liesje Nothing, in a dooley system it stays underground, in a leech field like a septic system. It gets broken down and then water runs it off into the ground. If the system works, the composter never fills up. It's a bottomless unit with tons of holes in the sides so the broken down waste seeps out. Perhaps "compost" isn't really the right word. I have NO intention of re-using any form of plant or animal waste. We have too much soil already from a small pile of leaves we make each year and dog waste isn't safe to use. I don't garden either.

Jane I end up with about a Target plastic bag of poop each week. I use a big bin to collect it only b/c it keeps the dogs from knocking it over or Legend from his bad habit of reaching up on things and then pulling it over. A waste bin like what you use in a bathroom would be the right side but I keep it in a bigger bin. I live in the city so can't throw it over any fence, hence why I prefer to bury it or break it down. Regardless of the volume of waste, I hate having to put trash out weekly. We "pay per tip" which means paying every week whether my bin just has a plastic bag of poo or is completely full. If I don't have dog waste, I only have trash picked up every 2-3 weeks.

The poop itself isn't really smelly. The food I use seems to help. I tried another brand last year and the main reason we switched back almost right away was the smell of the poo. However putting it in the hot, humid garage makes it smell. When I used the dooley I often left it uncovered to catch rain water and unless you stuck your face in it, it didn't really smell. If I left the poop in the yard, it would dry out and turn white within a day, but I have a yard that's about 50'x40' an we also do agility, frisbee, fetch, and flyball drills in this space so even being pretty dry, non-smelly poop I'd rather not having the dogs jumping in it.
04-17-2014 08:05 PM
Sunflowers What are you going to do with the compost, then?

I save my Ziploc freezer bags and collect poo weekly in a one gallon bag, the morning of trash day.
Maybe I should flush each day's poo down the toilet.
04-17-2014 07:59 PM
onyx'girl I feed raw and there is so little waste when I scoop poop. If I had to throw it away every week, it would amount to a small plastic garbage bag(for three adult dogs). I toss it over the fence into the wooded area where the poison ivy is heavy. It is chalky/crumbles within a few days and doesn't really smell.
Nobody walks around there and I hope someday the poop will kill all that ivy!
04-17-2014 07:34 PM
SuperG Composting manure with protein in it is something the North Koreans do.....they call it "night soil "...which is chock full of nasty human crap....pun intended...such as disease causing pathogens, parasitic worms et al.

Not sure what the intended benefit is of composting dog crap but I would make certain it is fully decomposed to weaken any potential health risks for any and all involved.

SuperG
04-17-2014 07:30 PM
Liesje I used Rid-X/septic stuff in my home made dooley and it didn't help. I looked into buying worms for a vermicomposting system, but it can be pretty expensive up front and I couldn't find any sources saying it would work for pet waste. The issues with my composter were that it wasn't buried deep enough and I couldn't keep it wet enough. We have sandy soil so it drains fast which is REALLY nice like this past weekend when 100" of snow and ice from the winter melted plus it rained several days yet my yard is dry 12 hours later and also helps drain out the bottom of the composter (it's bottom-less) but in order to keep things "going" you basically have to fill it with water daily. Paying for city water and filling up 40 gallons is more cost plus another daily chore.
04-17-2014 07:01 PM
Susan_GSD_mom We're in mid Michigan, and I feel your pain! I have had three very large GSDs at one time before, two now. Until a year ago we had 2.25 acres, and we would just pick a new spot to bury it, eventually plan a flower bed over that area. We also used to bury it in exiating flower beds (it helped prevent the dogs from digging in them). Cover them with a thick layer of leaves in the fall(10-12 in.) and you can still dig it in under the leaves for much of the winter. In the spring, when you have to clean the yard of all the "land mines" that appear when the snow melts, I bagged a lot of it up and put it out with the trash, not too much per bag as it was too heavy!

Dog poop does take a LONG time to compost, even to break down when you bury it. Now we have only 1/2 acre, and I am starting to face your same issues, although you have a much smaller space. We do still plan on flower beds, so they will begin with a layer of buried dog poop!

For composting as you hope to do, would the compost starter stuff you can add to your regular compost pile help? I know it's supposed to help leaves, etc., perhaps it will help with dog poop.

Even though it's frowned on, I would still rely on bagging some of it up. It's a lot less dangerous than most of the stuff that goes into land fills! I have a heavy duty can for that, and the lid fits tight to help keep the smell down. Lime would help with that, too.

Susan
04-17-2014 06:46 PM
carmspack when feeding a raw diet very little organic material remains, mostly boney material .
I collect mine in a big pail and have added straw , leaves, or pine shavings. When the bucket is full I take the wheel barrow and feed the trees . There is no smell.
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04-17-2014 06:13 PM
wolfy dog I will sound completely irresponsible but here goes. I have a plastic liner in a metal waste container and throw it out on garbage day. Tried all the other methods and none worked. I compost everything else that is compostable, recycle dutifully, live healthy, etc. so I don't feel guilty. My hippie friends frown upon it though. Oh well...
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