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08-06-2014 06:49 PM
glowingtoadfly There is a Dead Thing under my porch. Oh, to drag it out, to scent- roll upon its deliciousness! I while away many an hour attempting to fit beneath the porch-boards so that I may luxuriate in the rat, possum, or bunny which died, probably of starvation rather than face the jaws of I, the Princess of Biting. Grim does not have my magnetized focus upon the delightful whiff of decay, he bumbles about, occasionally gazing where I gaze at the gathering of flies that feast upon my longed-for and now dead captive. When it was alive, I longed to chase it, and now, its delights are even greater, in a different way. I have watched the terrified creature turn to a feast of scents and tastes, and now I am denied its joys. Woe is me. I will gaze longer and smell longer, beneath the porch amidst the broken implements of humans who used to live here. The Gentleman hears my whines of longing but refuses to allow me ingress into the gorgeous kingdom of rot. Ah, to have opposable thumbs so that I may venture into the scented cave, the haven of my Dead Thing. To chase the ghosts of tiny creatures across the yard is my mirage, my dream of Valhalla, in which I kill and they rise again, only to be chased and shaken again and again. I catch glimpses of this Paradise when I chase my flirt pole. One day....
08-05-2014 09:31 PM
glowingtoadfly Today Grim was very good at staying at my side. I just started taking a Dog Trainer Foundations course through the Karen Pryor Academy, and I have been bringing my clicker on walks and heavily rewarding heeling. We walked right by another dog on the other side of the street! Some of the exercises Grim and I have been doing together are about focus and eye contact, so that has been helpful.
08-04-2014 09:14 AM
glowingtoadfly Focus has definitely been something we are working on, but I will work on it more. He doesn't quite have eye contact while heeling on command yet, but I reward heavily when he does it naturally. I have worked on eye contact during the sit a lot. I will start working more on putting focus on command. The only toy he seems interested in on walks is a ball, which makes Skadi think she is going to play fetch! My husband doesn't really enjoy it when I bring toys on walks for this reason. I think it is something to try though.
08-04-2014 12:11 AM
Lucy Dog And get and keep his attention before he has the opportunity to react to something that will potentially set him off.

Have you laid the ground work for focus? Will he focus on you on command? I use a "look" command with my dogs and it's something I teach before I even teach a sit. He'll need to know what you're asking before you correct him for not doing what you're asking of him.

Keep the dog by your side. If you see another dog coming, get grim's attention on you and only you. His eyes on your eyes in a heel. Get out his favorite tug or anything of high value and reward him for focusing. Praise him and make it fun. Give him a reason to focus on you and only you. Walk by the other dog before he even realizes there's anyone there to even react to. It gets easier with practice and consistency.
08-03-2014 11:58 PM
glowingtoadfly I actually fitted Grim's collar this way when we first started, and it worked great. I added a link because I thought it was too tight. I will take the link back out, that would probably help him to be less all over the place. My husband usually walks Skadi, and we have actually talked about training her more on walks the way I usually do with Grim ( not shown)
08-03-2014 11:46 PM
Lucy Dog You don't have to walk an entire walk in a tight heel. That's going to be boring for both of you. Sniffing is fine as long as it's on the side of me and I'm not being dragged.

Has anyone ever shown you how to properly fit a prong? It should be snug and right behind the ears all the way up the neck. A correction while the dog is 6 feet in front of you really isn't going to accomplish much. A good correction while the dog is right next to you is going to correct the dog.

Leerburg Dog Training | How to Fit a Prong Collar

To me, it just looks like these dogs just lack some training and guidance. Nothing that can't be fixed.
08-03-2014 11:33 PM
glowingtoadfly They are wearing their prongs. Thank you! Usually, Grim spends about 50 percent of walks working on heel, and the other 50 percent sniffing. My husband allows Skadi to sniff a lot because she doesn't react to other dogs. I couldn't video and work on heel at the same time. Maybe I will get my husband to tape Grim heeling for me.
08-03-2014 11:31 PM
Lucy Dog Are they wearing their prongs there or just on flat collars?

Looks like excitement and frustration, combined with no direction other than "no no no no no...", and nothing to focus on other than whatever is getting them excited and barking. The spinning looks like frustration combined with the leash reactivity.

Stop giving so much leash. They should either be walking next to you or slightly behind you. You should be walking together... not them walking you. Get the prong on the dogs and higher up on their necks so it's fitted correctly. Get them something (ball, tug, stick, whatever) for them to focus on other than whatever they're barking at. And pop that collar if they lose focus. Correct the unwanted behavior (prong pop) and reward the good behavior (toy when focusing).
08-03-2014 10:17 PM
glowingtoadfly That is extremely helpful, thank you! Later in the walk we worked more on heeling when I wasn't trying to videotape him It's good to know I'm not the only one who has dealt with this.
08-03-2014 10:15 PM
mego Just my personal opinion, I don't think that's extreme fear or anything, just looks like over-excitement/being a butt. He calms down and goes back to walking afterwards.

My girl sounded a lot worse than that when she was younger and it just took some pretty stiff corrections. I know a lot of people like to give treats for look at that or stuff like that but in a situation like that I don't give treats in the middle of the outburst because he is eating them while hyped up, you might want to treat him while he is calm. I would give treats after he's totally calm or start pumping treats before a reaction like that. Bark bark bark treats bark bark just didn't work for my dog. She's non-reactive now. Just my opinion.
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