|05-04-2014 08:57 PM|
|huntergreen||nancy, not all bacteria is bad. once the host is "gone" the bacteria either dies or moves on to another host. any time high eat is added to a process the bacteria dies.|
|05-04-2014 07:36 PM|
|Doc||I'd skip the morrow bones and go with a raw meaty bone. Morrow is loaded with fat.|
|05-04-2014 12:06 PM|
Just read your piece- from 2012 -- I am having troubles w loose stools (20 mo old GSD) he was in great health til I moved him off TOW due to recalls. Tried Origen and Acana and had loose stools at 50/50 with both. On Metronadazole also, twice, and WD.
I learned that diarrhea CAN come from the GI track always working, which it does on WD in order to get 61/2 cups in per day. Also I did not like that the 1st ingredient was Whole Grain CORN of all things. My Axel lost 5 pounds, could see his ribs. After one month on WD as per the vet's plan, "so his GI Track can rest and become calm" I have started SLOWLY transitioning him to Purina Pro Select Sensitive Stomach. I will keep him on that for a month or two until stabilized and THEN PAINFULLY SLOWLY move him to NATURE'S LOGIC. Look up that website. Also at Chewy.com people have written in who own GSDs who had digestive troubles and ever since that food: NONE. That formulation makes sense to me.
I THINK my GSD got his initial hit from BULLY STICKS -- not bones -- but it's the same thing really. I ordered bully sticks from BESTBULLYSTICKS.com bec they get theirs from Argentina. I also put them in the freezer to freeze any bacteria. While I do not blame them, I think bacteria from dead animals DOES LIVE ON and CAN HARM OUR PETS. I will investigate this further and maybe keep the bully sticks in the freezer for a month instead of a week.
Please let us know how you and your dog are.
(I am also from NC -- Winston Salem)
|04-15-2014 12:20 AM|
|llombardo||That is so similar to what happened with my golden. I mixed the weight management Fromm with the Whitefish and Potato and he ended up at the vet for a couple days. Since it was undigested food he threw up I changed foods and everything got better. The vet thought something with the pancreas but did not rule out poison or a possible blockage. He had the barium test and it moved through, but very slowly. Vet did say that changing or adding foods could cause some dogs issues.|
|04-14-2014 10:12 PM|
|TAR HEEL MOM||
Diet suggestions after illness?
Long story really short. Tar had his first real sickness this poast week. Throwing up foamy piles and some undigested food gradually became bloody liquid diarrhea. I had a general knowledge of things to do since I work at the shelter, still scared the poop out of me! He has been on Metronidazole, Para Pectilin tabs, I/D food after fasting. Stool checked for parasites (I went ahead and gave a multi parasite treatment) and Giardia (negative for both.) Precipitating factor could have been marrow bones. I had given both Tar and Jocassee marrow bones all their lives with no ill effects, but for some reason last Sunday (they got two new bones) he got sick. It's possible that he ate both his and Jocassee's. They trade off and "fight" each other over the bones when they are new so it's hard to know. I also gave him a dish of a different food on Sunday morning, mixed half and half with his old food.
I have been feeding the 4Health Weight Management mixed with the 4Health Grain Free Whitefish and Potato. Weight management for Jocassee (who needs to lose) and the whitefish mixed 50/50 so they have the good taste and since Tar doesn't really need to lose. I was almost out and wouldnt' be to Tractor Supply for a couple of days, so I bought some Purina One Beyond and mixed with the 4Health mixture to make it stretch out another couple of days. I can't imagine that that had that detrimental effect. Jocassee was unaffected but has a rot gut stomach anyway.
So now he is pooping almost normally again and has no blood in his stool. Stool is formed and can be picked up with nothing left behind but is soft. No vomit for several days now. Has another day of Metro left and has finished the Pectilin tablets.
He acts fine...fully back to himself. He was definitely OFF for a couple of days. Never got dehydrated or anemic but was tired and almost lethargic.
Vet seems to think a pancreatic episode based on the marrow bones and the fact that she saw a lot of undigested fat globules in his stool.
It's almost time to start transitioning back to real food (Good Lord that I/D is expensive!) and I'm almost afraid. I NEVER, EVER want to see that bloody poop again!
I still have the huge barrel of 4Health mix that Jocassee is eating. Here are the specs of the Healthy Weight 4health? Healthy Weight Formula for Adult Dogs, 5 lb. Bag - Tractor Supply Co. and the whitefish/potato 4health? Grain Free Whitefish & Potato Formula for Adult Dogs, 30 lb. Bag - Tractor Supply Co.
If the incident was a pancreatitis type attack, is the fat content of the food too high? Should I feed the weight management alone? It really has no flavor or smell much and I'm not sure they would even eat it. Or would you suggest an entirely new food? I can't afford to feed the super high dollar foods, so I try to do the best I can for them within my means.
Or should I just start adding some enzymes or supplements and stick with the whitefish/potato alone?
Thanks for your input! He really scared me this week!
Also..does anyone else have any issues with marrow bones? Poor doigs..they love them so much and I'm afraid to give Tar one now.