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04-17-2014 01:27 PM
SunCzarina My girl who had arthritis and DM, swimming helped her, as did Adequan.

Hydro therapy doesn't have to be at a fancy therapy place - I used to take Morgan with the kids to a beach. I'd just have one of the kids run back and forth in water up to their waist chanting you can't catch me. LOL helped with her exercise and made her happy, still being able to chase my kids around.
04-17-2014 01:06 PM
Sabis mom That's excellent news. I'm so happy for you.

I would seriously check into acupuncture if I were you. Also study up on massage. Far fewer side effects then meds, and the effects can be quite dramatic.
04-17-2014 08:48 AM
kbella999 Thanks. I have some zeel at home so I will swap it out. I'll look into Adequan also.

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Good news! I'd trade the traumeel fir zeel (traumeel is for muscle pulls and injuries, zeel is more for arthritis). Also look into Adequan shots, truly a miracle for many dogs!
04-17-2014 08:16 AM
I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO
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Vet didn't think it was DM. She took xrays and Rusti had hip dysplasia with arthritis in her lower spine. She thinks it is the spine problem that is causing the dragging of the foot. She also said Rusti showed a lot of muscle atrophy since last visit and that she was showing signs of being in pain along her spine and hips. She put her on Gabapentin for 15 days and Deramaxx-long term. I'm not really familiar with either of these drugs so if anyone has any experience with them, I would appreciate your input. Before taking her to vet she was on Dasuquin (therapeutic dose) and Traumeel (2x day). She is also on raw diet for over 2 years now. If anyone has any advice on treatment for her, I sure would appreciate it.
Good news! I'd trade the traumeel fir zeel (traumeel is for muscle pulls and injuries, zeel is more for arthritis). Also look into Adequan shots, truly a miracle for many dogs!
04-17-2014 08:11 AM
kbella999 Vet didn't think it was DM. She took xrays and Rusti had hip dysplasia with arthritis in her lower spine. She thinks it is the spine problem that is causing the dragging of the foot. She also said Rusti showed a lot of muscle atrophy since last visit and that she was showing signs of being in pain along her spine and hips. She put her on Gabapentin for 15 days and Deramaxx-long term. I'm not really familiar with either of these drugs so if anyone has any experience with them, I would appreciate your input. Before taking her to vet she was on Dasuquin (therapeutic dose) and Traumeel (2x day). She is also on raw diet for over 2 years now. If anyone has any advice on treatment for her, I sure would appreciate it.
04-16-2014 11:09 AM
shaner
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Thank you all for your support. I am actually feeling much better going to vet this evening than I did a few days ago. How long does it take to get that report back after sending in the dna sample?
I don't know as my test hasn't arrived in the mail yet, but if I were you I would cancel the vet appointment and run that DNA test first. Like that article said, stress appears to be a huge factor in the progression of DM. Vet appointments are very stressful for most dogs. If your dog likely has DM, the less stress the better. If that DNA test comes back as positive, then I don't see much point in MRI's, blood work, etc. Now of course if my dogs symptoms don't seem to be following DM's typical progression, then of course a trip to the vet would be in order. I just wouldn't want to risk making things worse with a disease that generally has no treatment and no cure.

Like I said, I'm going through this right now. I lined up an appointment with a vet that specializes in this disease, but I've since canceled it. I'm going to wait for the DNA test results and then I'll decide what to do.
04-16-2014 08:18 AM
kbella999 Thank you all for your support. I am actually feeling much better going to vet this evening than I did a few days ago. How long does it take to get that report back after sending in the dna sample?
04-16-2014 02:55 AM
Sabis mom With the dramatically low instances of carriers being actually positive, I would be inclined to believe a flawed test is more likely then a carrier being symptomatic.
04-15-2014 09:19 PM
I_LOVE_MY_MIKKO
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There have been dogs who have tested +/- who have been diagnosed with DM on autopsy. It even admits this on the U of M web site. Not many, but there have been some. The test is a step in the right direction but it does not appear to be 100%.

This is a good article on the disease
http://www.magsr.org/GSDDM%20copy.pdf

And I will look for the link to false negatives and post it here. It is, admittedly, very low occurence that the test is wrong.
That's a good point. Doctors at UF vet school told me the same thing.


Good luck with the appointment! Keep us posted.
04-15-2014 08:30 PM
jocoyn I cannot find it on the web page but since this is not a personal email......I will copy and paste what I got from U of M for my last dog. The vet sent it directly:

Redacted email addresses
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2012 2:53 PM
Subject: DM Report-Grim

Hello Jocoy,
Thank you for participating in the ongoing research and testing for DM – we appreciate your participation. Following is the DM test result for your dog. Attached to this email report is a certificate (in PDF format) for you to print for your records.

Grim tested CARRIER
Brief explanation of results;
NORMAL dogs are not at risk for developing DM and can safely be bred to a dog with any test result.

CARRIER are far less likely to develop DM, but we have confirmed DM in a few carrier dogs. They may be used carefully in breeding programs to keep their good qualities while reducing risk of DM in future generations.

AFFECTED dogs are AT RISK for developing DM at some point in their lifetime. Not all AFFECTED/AT RISK dogs develop observable clinical symptoms. At present we do not a way to predict when clinical symptoms may appear. Additional research is underway to help determine these details.

Dogs testing NORMAL or CARRIER who exhibit symptoms suggestive of DM should have additional diagnostics done to determine the possible underlying cause of observed symptoms.

Additional information and discussion of results and breeding considerations can be found in the DEGENERATIVE MYELOPATHY section of our website, www.CanineGeneticDiseases.net<http://www.CanineGeneticDiseases.net>.

If you would like to have these results recorded with OFA On their public database, you may mail or fax a copy of the certificate attached to this report along with the “Application for DNA-Based Genetic Database” form (http://www.offa.org/pdf/dnaapp_bw.pdf) and appropriate fee to OFA. Their website is www.OFFA.org<http://www.OFFA.org>, fax number is 573-875-5073, phone is 573-442-0418.

If you have questions about the test results please contact us; if you have questions about the OFA application, please contact OFA.

Thank you!

Jessie DeVore

Liz Hansen
Animal Molecular Genetics Laboratory
University of Missouri - College of Veterinary Medicine
321 Connaway Hall
Columbia, MO 65211
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