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04-11-2014 08:25 PM
Redrider469 That was probably a result of leaving the collar on as the dog grew. I use a prong collar and take it off as soon as the training session is over.
04-11-2014 08:21 PM
Sunflowers Oh, dear lord. Oh, no.
That poor, innocent dog.
I am heartsick.

04-11-2014 08:19 PM
Anubis_Star Yes, but THIS can also happen with a regular collar left on a dog too tight as the dog grows

Don't let AR nuts scare you. That will never happen with a properly used prong

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04-11-2014 07:21 PM
jafo220 I can't say whether or not it was just left on or someone put it on them and then staked them out, the possibilities are numerous. It was definitely used in the wrong manner obviously. I think some people just pick a training tool up to often and do little research into that training tool and when used in the wrong way, results turn out bad, mostly for the dog. I can see where injuries can happen if not used properly.

Before I put one on Cruz, I watched several different training video's on introducing dogs to prongs. I took it step by step. He now does pretty well with it and doesn't fight it like he did the gentle leader which can also cause injury, not to the extent of this example but still cause injury.
04-11-2014 07:11 PM
N Smith Yes this can happen - one this severe was most likely due to having the collar being left on and having the prongs grow into the neck. This would not happen from a well timed, fair correction.

I agree with the rest, who said that any collar can be abused - flat, prong, choke - all are tools with specific uses.

I have had a friend purchase a prong collar from a company that does NOT file the prongs to take off the sharp edge, they are just sharp, flat metal. She called me in tears (she has used a prong collar before and knows the correct use) because her dog had scrapes on his neck from the prong collar rubbing on his neck. We quickly identified the problem, she returned the prong, got a Herm Sprenger collar and never had another occurance.

So if you go with a prong make sure you have one that has rounded, smooth prongs. Know how to use it correctly, and you are good to go!
04-11-2014 07:01 PM
Originally Posted by Baillif View Post
If you have the prong on snug and leave it on for 3-4 days it will get embedded on its own. Easily avoided by taking it off when not training the dog.
It was also probably a cheap Chinese prong instead of a high-quality one.
04-11-2014 07:00 PM
Originally Posted by Madisonmj97 View Post
What is it suppose to do? I used it to keep from pulling, but on my big black male it didn't work... He was just way too aggressive. Are chain choke collars ok?
Training is what will get the dog to stop pulling.

Prongs and choke chains are not recommended for puppies under six months.
04-11-2014 06:59 PM
Baillif I'm about 99% positive it was just left on. You can helicopter a dog with a prong collar on and not get it embedded like that. Put it on tight and snug and go 4 days without taking it off though and that's what you get. You can get that kind of thing with e collars too if you put it on snug and don't rotate the collar often enough. It eventually rubs it's way in. Kind of like how people get bedsores in hospitals.
04-11-2014 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
Yes that can really happen. You can also crush a trachea with a regular flat collar or leave it on so that it becomes embedded like I suspect happened with this prong. These are tools and all can be abused unfortunately.

This is abuse, doesn't matter if its a prong that's been used improperly, altered/sharpened, or an embedded flat collar, there is a human to blame, not the tool.
04-11-2014 06:51 PM
Baillif If you have the prong on snug and leave it on for 3-4 days it will get embedded on its own. Easily avoided by taking it off when not training the dog.
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