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04-10-2014 09:58 AM
jocoyn I have not faced bloat yet and hope to never have to but I have been pretty consistent about premoistening food, keeping meals small, and not excercising at least 30 minutes before 2 hours after eating. I have had dogs get into food (like eating a bunch of dry cat food) and I proactively administered gas-x.

At the very least I am going to test any new food with my soak test because some swell up bigtime and others release gas bubbles as they absorb water. It is hard for me to believe a 30 minute soak is going to cause problems bacteria wise. OF course that is for a dog that eats it all up.
04-10-2014 09:32 AM
Anubis_Star Actually I'm going to backtrack, there actually has been one correlation I've seen result from a study, and that's actually the fact that it appears dogs that eat from an elevated food bowl may have an INCREASED chance of having a gdv. So never feed from an elevated food bowl. It's not a natural eating posture for any canine

As well I've actually heard numerous times not to add water to food and let it soak, it can increase bacteria load on the food (and vets complain about raw diets...)
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04-10-2014 09:30 AM
Anubis_Star Have the dog gastropexied, which literally sutures the stomach to the abdominal wall to prevent it from flipping. This does not 100% prevent a torsion but greatly decreases your chances.

I work with board certified veterinary surgeons, and thing is, we just don't know what causes gdv outside of deep chested breeds are predisposed (except I've seen a few dachshunds, a cat, and a guinea pig with gdv). Food before exercise, water, running, raised vs lowered food bowls, NONE of these things have actually shown in studies to increase or reduce risks one way or another.

There is also a big difference to keep in mind - bloat and an actual gdv are different. A dog will bloat as a result of a flipped stomach, because gasses will not escape. But a dog's stomach actually rarely bloats before it actually flips. And a bloated stomach doesn't always flip.

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04-10-2014 02:15 AM
Colie CVT There isn't any 100% this does it always and this prevents it always correlation anywhere. However some of those things are just good for ease of digestion anyway. Smaller meals can help with lessening what is in there. Keeping large amounts of water drinking near meals (speaking as a person with a hiedal hernia, liquid with food causes irritation). Slowing down eating so they don't inhale as much air/rapidly enlarge the stomach.

The vets I work with all pexy a dog who comes in for GDV surgery. You cannot stop the bloating from gasses but the deadly torsion is prevented. Their stomach lining can start to die, the spleen and intestines are involved then. It is scary.

Depending on where you are, some clinics offer to pexy as a laparoscopic procedure. Minimal incisions, quicker healing time. Things like that.

Knowing the signs to look for is helpful too. They don't always present normally either, but it is definitely a life and death situation.


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04-10-2014 01:47 AM
Sslitovkin Yep, sorry should have written it different. It seems that torsion is what is life threatening, so if the gastropexy would prevent that then it might be worth it.

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04-10-2014 01:09 AM
SummerGSDLover I think the only thing the gastroplexy helps with is stomach torsion, not bloat.

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04-10-2014 01:03 AM
Sslitovkin Is bloat the only thing that causes GDV? And is a gastroplexy pretty much guaranteed to prevent it?
04-10-2014 12:57 AM
gsdsar There is a lot of controversy regarding preventive measures. The only consistent ones are no excersise for 1-2 hours before and after feeding, and smaller frequent meals, and slowing a dog down when eating.

Purdue did a study years back, that showed no correlation between raised food bowls and bloat. But had weird recommendations regarding wetting the food. I think they said not to. When I get back to my PC, I will try to find it.

I have one dog that is pexied. We fight a constant battle with bloat. No family history. I recommend getting it done when they are spayed. Don't know that I would do it on it's own again.


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04-10-2014 12:56 AM
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How does her family history look? How is her temperament? It appears that one of the biggest risk factors, apart from age & family history, is a dog that's anxious & easily stressed.

I have a friend who's had ~20 IWs through the years, Her dogs gets the gastropexy only if they otherwise have major surgery, hence only 1 or 2 have had it. Her 1st IW died of GDV when he was almost 10. Another bloated 2-3 times, but never twisted (he'd never had the gastropexy). He was an anxious & easily stressed guy. None of her others have had any trouble but only one stresses easily (& I'm not sure she hasn't bloated, but she's never twisted & hasn't had a gastropexy).
Not sure about the family history, she is my first GsD (living on my own, had grown up with several) I probably will email the breeder and find out though. I would say she has a medium temperment, doesn't seem to get stressed or anxious much. She has had a broken leg in the past and will need to go in for one last surgery on it in about 6 months. I am wondering if it would be a good time to do it then, since she'll be under anesthesia and the leg surgery should only take about 30 minutes, although I don't want her under for too long. Just learning about GdV thought freaks me out enough it might be worth the peace of mind.
04-10-2014 12:44 AM
RubyTuesday How does her family history look? How is her temperament? It appears that one of the biggest risk factors, apart from age & family history, is a dog that's anxious & easily stressed.

I have a friend who's had ~20 IWs through the years, Her dogs gets the gastropexy only if they otherwise have major surgery, hence only 1 or 2 have had it. Her 1st IW died of GDV when he was almost 10. Another bloated 2-3 times, but never twisted (he'd never had the gastropexy). He was an anxious & easily stressed guy. None of her others have had any trouble but only one stresses easily (& I'm not sure she hasn't bloated, but she's never twisted & hasn't had a gastropexy).
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