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04-13-2014 12:02 PM
scarfish that's strange that all the dogs ages are all mixed up. the place we go to for training has 3 different classes. under 5 months puppy kindergarten which is stupid basic stuff. over 5 months is basic obedience. when they graduate basic obedience at any age and pass the AKC canine good citizen test they start advanced off leash training. i think it works out nice like that.

for us the puppy classes are pointless 'cause our new 15 week old gets all the socialization it needs from going to doggy day camp. easily picks up on basic commands and learns by watching our 16 month old that's in advanced classes.
04-13-2014 11:57 AM
MaggieRoseLee From yesterday! Class #3

04-13-2014 11:32 AM
kjdreyer Any chance you could find a puppy class with actual puppies? That sounds like a bit of chaos, but I'd say the most important thing is how is your puppy reacting to all of the crazy? If he looks like he's scared or uncomfortable, I think I'd drop out of class! If he acts like it's all great fun, you're probably OK, but you're right to keep your distance from everybody else. And, FWIW, I wish I'd found this article sooner in regards to socializing my puppy:
Leerburg | Socializing Puppies

Good luck!
04-13-2014 11:02 AM
llombardo I don't see a problem with it. It's great distraction training. Training is about teaching the owner what to do. It's up to the owner to work in that stuff at home. I don't feel that your dog will pick up any behaviors from the other dogs at all. My golden puppy started with pups his age, he was all over the place. Now he is the youngest in the class and equal to the older dogs. None of my dogs could care less about the other dogs in training and that is because they are focused on me.
04-13-2014 08:15 AM
Athena'sMom Sinister just completed his AKC S.T.A.R. puppy class and all the puppies were required to be under 20 weeks when class began. I feel puppies should never be around dogs who are already having behavior problems. Puppy class should be for positive human and puppy interaction. My opinion is Protect your puppy and find a better environment for training.
04-13-2014 06:04 AM
sourdough44 I often think about the fate involved with how dogs end up with certain owners. Like an energetic Lab with lethargic owners who don't provide adequate, consistent exercise. At least at a training class a dog gets socialized somewhat in a partially controlled setting.

Maybe just strive to pick up some pointers to use one on one later on?
04-09-2014 11:07 AM
Blanketback I don't think I'd want my 14 week old puppy around the others with the issues. Maybe it's not a problem, but I noticed when I had my puppy in the 'puppy manners' class that he coincidentally picked up the bad habit of jumping on people after being in a group of pups that did this. IDK, I can't say for sure that he learned this in class, lol...but he'd gone for over 2 months prior to that having not jumped on people. Who knows what they're thinking in those non-stop puppy brains.
04-09-2014 09:55 AM
holland That was adorable watching them play-
04-09-2014 09:29 AM
MaggieRoseLee I love the puppy class I'm in BUT the pups are all pretty much the same age...

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...47307363314406

Can you see if there are other classes available in your area? Since your pup is only 14 weeks old the main focus of class isn't so much 'formal' obedience as the socialization and beginning focus/training. So you can go to a more 'fun' class to get started.

The class I'm in has 2 of us (with the black GSDs) using the clickers. And the 2 other owners new to dog training and using a word to mark. There have been NO problem with our instructor allowing those of us with clickers to use them. If you aren't allowed to use it then your smart puppy just won't be able to take advantage of learning faster and clearer so adding a bit of confusion.
04-09-2014 09:20 AM
onyx'girl The instructor should remove the dogs with problems and set up private lessons with the owners(or refer them to someone that can help). But that probably won't happen.
I'd keep going but do my own thing, and be diligent in not allowing any negative experience be had by my puppy. After the classes end, I'd be giving the instructor or whoever owns the place a detailed critique of the classes....maybe they can make some changes if things turn out bad. And if it is good with progress you can share that too.
First nights are always stressful for the fearful pups...they shouldn't be pushed past their threshold and not be placed close to the other dogs until they feel more confident.

Socializing doesn't mean playing with the other dogs, it means experiences.
If you want your dog to play with other dogs, set up a playdate with a confident stable temperamented dog.
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