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04-08-2014 11:40 PM
Ellimaybel
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Originally Posted by middleofnowhere View Post
And what are the qualifications of this co-worker? What makes him more trustworthy than the other advise giver?


He actually trains aggression dogs. My husband is in the DOC and I'm in law enforcement. We have access to trainers for aggression, drugs, and other things if we want it. The other advice giver owns a dog but sought out no training whatsoever. What makes him more trustworthy is the fact that we have both worked with him in the DOC and my husband has known him for years and also owned dogs that this co-worker has trained. I'm excited to have the opportunity to work with someone for free.
04-08-2014 10:56 PM
middleofnowhere
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Originally Posted by Ellimaybel View Post
After reading the responses to this I have deduced that maybe it wasn't the worst advice I have ever heard, perhaps just worded badly. We are going to meet up with a co-worker and take Gunther to get him worked with to defend me against an attacker. He doesn't really bite me, he just likes to grab me and it bruises. I do know he will bark to scare someone off the property and I would like to think that's enough but I am also aware of the types of criminals that I arrest and the ones my husband works to keep locked in the maximum security prison that is right around the corner from us. We make a lot of criminal enemies so while I don't want Gunther to be mean, I do need to know that he is going to jump to action if the situation were to arise. If it never does, that's even better!

Thanks for the input guys, it helped my perspective a little.
And what are the qualifications of this co-worker? What makes him more trustworthy than the other advise giver?
04-08-2014 06:32 PM
boomer11
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Originally Posted by Baillif View Post
Its like thinking you can pluck a random kid off the street and train him to be a world class athelete. Most of the time its just not there.
This might be the best analogy I've ever heard.
04-08-2014 06:03 PM
DaniFani The most *interesting advice I ever got was a guy at Home Depot. I was with my previous GSD, had him in a down/stay while we were looking at something. Guy told me I was mean to have him in a down/stay while we were looking at something. I said he's in training and we're working on obedience. He asked what kind of training, and I said Schutzhund. Then he said I shouldn't be training him in that...he said, "Schutzhund isn't for German Shepherds, he is a German Shepherd, right? Then he shouldn't be training in that, it isn't for German Shepherds, that's for Dobermans." Mmmhhmmm. Have a great day, thanks for the advice. lol
04-08-2014 05:46 PM
Ellimaybel After reading the responses to this I have deduced that maybe it wasn't the worst advice I have ever heard, perhaps just worded badly. We are going to meet up with a co-worker and take Gunther to get him worked with to defend me against an attacker. He doesn't really bite me, he just likes to grab me and it bruises. I do know he will bark to scare someone off the property and I would like to think that's enough but I am also aware of the types of criminals that I arrest and the ones my husband works to keep locked in the maximum security prison that is right around the corner from us. We make a lot of criminal enemies so while I don't want Gunther to be mean, I do need to know that he is going to jump to action if the situation were to arise. If it never does, that's even better!

Thanks for the input guys, it helped my perspective a little.
04-08-2014 10:32 AM
wyoung2153
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Originally Posted by Ellimaybel View Post
Some guy at my husbands work told him that we should NOT teach Gunther not to bite us. His logic was that Gunther won't bite someone if the situation were to arise where it were necessary. Really??????????? If this unknown person has dogs then obviously he hasn't trained them. Unless I'm missing something here and I should allow my dog to bite me so that he'll bite a stranger harming me? It either makes me laugh or cry. I'm not sure which yet.
Wouldn't have happened to tell you to also not train your dog until he's 2 because "German Shepherds don't learn and listen before that so it's pointless to train them that early."
04-08-2014 10:22 AM
Gwenhwyfair Yeah, it's one of those myths that repeated often enough become gospel. I was told it enough to believe it....for a while....but have learned differently now.

Same with playing tug with your dog will make it aggressive, or dominant, or the devil or something like that.

The sad thing is once these sort of things take hold amongst popular pet owning culture it's very hard to dispel them......
04-08-2014 09:09 AM
sehrgutcsg
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Originally Posted by Ellimaybel View Post
Some guy at my husbands work told him that we should NOT teach Gunther not to bite us. His logic was that Gunther won't bite someone if the situation were to arise where it were necessary. Really??????????? If this unknown person has dogs then obviously he hasn't trained them. Unless I'm missing something here and I should allow my dog to bite me so that he'll bite a stranger harming me? It either makes me laugh or cry. I'm not sure which yet.
There was a technique explained to me about 25 years ago and it went kinda like this. A stranger comes into the yard or house and flanks the dog. For the people who don't understand this term it's a; "strong pinch to the fatty part (front) of the hind quarter's near the belly. It hurts, don't do it..

This will make the dog hate and distrust strangers. Advice is like rain, it's sometimes nice and sometimes a real drag. Teach the word: Fuss...

Don't think the dog does not know when the time comes to do the intended job....

Sometime's not knowing when to laugh and when to cry is like a dog not knowing when; "Showtime" is...
04-08-2014 08:55 AM
Blanketback That's pretty funny advice, lol. When you think that if the dog does bite you (really, more like mouthing since I teach a soft bite too) then it's playing - and if the dog bit someone because it felt threatened, it sure as heck wouldn't be playing - what, is the dog a wind-up toy that can't use discretion with its jaw power? Strange, what people will come up with, lol.
04-08-2014 08:55 AM
Baillif Apparently some people believe a dog cannot differentiate between being a jerk to its owner and biting a decoy or helper agitating the crap out of them with a stick.

These people are misinformed.

You can then transfer that to hidden sleeves and whatever. If your dog wont bite a decoy it probably wont save you if you ask for it. Most people have watered down pet versions of the breed these days anyway. A lot of them have little to no ppd value. People think they can just get a gsd of craigslist and it will be capable of an IPO3 or something. Its like thinking you can pluck a random kid off the street and train him to be a world class athelete. Most of the time its just not there.
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