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04-04-2014 04:05 PM
Serbrider Yeah, I have nothing wrong with her being happy. Or people petting her, or her getting joy from it. She LOVES it and would do anything for it. My problem isn't even necessarily the people who are nice and say "oh sorry" or even "I don't mind" after I explain that I don't mind them petting her, but all four feet need to stay on the floor, and to not encourage her to jump up. It's more the people (who, I admit, aren't as common as the nice people, but I do seem to run into at least one or two a week) who will say "come up!" and pat their legs and stuff to get the dog to jump up on them, and then get all huffy and upset when I explain that they are very welcome to pet her, but as long as we're on the ground, or I pick her up (since not all people are physically capable of bending down to pet her, and she's still light enough that it's OK).

I know it will go down a lot once she gets older and is less of a puppy. SHE will still want to see everyone and make friends, that's just how she is. But there will be less of other people going all nutso.

So... yeah. I think I probably am worrying about it more than I should, I just had a really bad experience the last time I took her to tractor supply, with the one lady telling me I was being cruel for correcting Arya and rude for asking her to not let her jump, that I was training. But... she was great in Ace Hardware, and if other people aren't going all nutso on her, she is calm, cool, collected, and is so far listening pretty great... with the normal puppy distractions... but yeah.
04-04-2014 03:53 PM
selzer I disagree with being rude to people who are asking to pet your puppy. If they don't ask, don't allow it and to Hades with them. But if someone does as you mentioned, and seems to disapprove of your correcting their dog, this is human nature -- and not a bad thing.

They understand that they may have played a part in your pup getting into trouble, and they want to minimize the effect. Oh, he's just a puppy, I don't mind. This is just being polite. To be rude to them, would actually reflect poorly on GSD owners in general. Because, I think we, more than anyone else, are absolutely anal about socialization, whether we allow or do not allow people to pet our dogs, and some of us tend to be more sharp than our breed of choice.

So, please do not be rude to an errant attempt at politeness, just explain that you do not want the puppy to get used to something that will be dangerous later on, and then you will have to break her of the habit.

Frankly, I think you are worrying too much about it. Puppies at this stage SHOULD be happy, happy, joy, joy to everyone. When they get a little older they naturally SHOULD be more descriminating about who they seek out for attention.

My dogs do not jump on others. They jump on me plenty. Some of them. But they never jump on other people. This is a shepherd trait. The standard says something to the effect that they will accept overtures -- stand their ground, but they do not seek out attention from strangers.

So, it is actually unlikely for the puppy to continue to jump all over people, but letting the puppy know that this is not ok -- nothing wrong with that, and when the person says, "oh that's ok, it's just a puppy" understand that they aren't challenging your parenthood, the are just trying to be polite and let you know that it didn't bother them. So just let them know that it is something you want to nip in the bud. "Yeah, but I need to nip it in the bud. I can't have her doing that when she is 70 pounds."

This way, no one goes away thinking how nasty or rude you are, and you aren't feeling negative about the whole encounter, and your pup, who is very tuned to these sorts of things, isn't getting negative vibes because of the stranger-encounter.
04-04-2014 03:18 PM
carmspack my oh my will you look at the time !
04-04-2014 02:50 PM
Serbrider
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when things go "south" then you keep the meeting real brief , "thanks for your nice comments, but I've got to keep on going" and you do just that . You address the dog and move on . The praise you give the dog that very moment of going away from the admirer will make it a good thing to keep focused on YOU.
Meetings brief , or not at all. Doggy does not decide . The focus should be on you , which if the dog is behind you sniffing it isn't all there , yet .

Exit stage left !
I agree, it's not all there yet. It's getting better and better each time, but yes. I agree, it's not 100% there yet.

And okay, thanks.
04-04-2014 02:15 PM
DJEtzel ^ Yep. I keep any greetings and advise clients to keep greetings to 5 seconds or less. More and you're setting your puppy up to fail. The more you can keep them short and prevent her from EVER jumping, the less likely she will be to try it.
04-04-2014 02:10 PM
carmspack when things go "south" then you keep the meeting real brief , "thanks for your nice comments, but I've got to keep on going" and you do just that . You address the dog and move on . The praise you give the dog that very moment of going away from the admirer will make it a good thing to keep focused on YOU.
Meetings brief , or not at all. Doggy does not decide . The focus should be on you , which if the dog is behind you sniffing it isn't all there , yet .

Exit stage left !
04-04-2014 02:06 PM
Serbrider Carmspack, that's what I'm doing with her, even with the pushy strangers who insist on having her "be cute" and jump up. I don't allow it. But it's also hard to enforce when there are those who keep pushing.

Just one more instance where I need to be more assertive.


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04-04-2014 02:03 PM
Serbrider Lol, y'all are ridiculous.

Anyways, Ace Hardware went well. If there are no people around/paying attention to her, she is PERFECT. She doesn't yet heel (as in a command), but she walks on a loose leash by me, only occasionally gets lost behind bc she's smelling something. Quick correction and we're good again.

We are still having issues with her wanting to jump up, but everyone I met today has been the understanding type, so it was a quick correction and she sat nicely for them.... For 5 seconds. But that five seconds was rewarded and the subsequent crazy corrected (tch noise and mild leash correction if necessary).

Seriously, love this dog. She's so easy.


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04-04-2014 01:59 PM
carmspack you don't have to convince the strangers or negotiate with them.
Just say no .

control the dog ! Ask for the behaviour from the pup that you want that young one to have as an adult. Correct from the get go.
04-04-2014 01:44 PM
Baillif
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We'll see about that. I'm not easy to brainwash.
All the cultists say that at some point.
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