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04-03-2014 12:27 PM
holland
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Originally Posted by robk View Post
High school kids SHOULD do it. How cool is it when a young person really takes an interest in something like IPO that they can grow in as they go through life.
Yes
04-03-2014 11:34 AM
robk
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Totally useless and make IPO/Schh so easy even high school kids can do it. So no point in working to achieve something so easy and watered down as it is even easier to just breed whatever After all it is a free country.
High school kids SHOULD do it. How cool is it when a young person really takes an interest in something like IPO that they can grow in as they go through life.
04-03-2014 11:26 AM
Suka This is why I am so attracted to and training in PSA. Different scenarios and different distractions in every trial, forcing absolute obedience to the handler and enforcing a handler dog relationship that must work as a team in ever-changing situations. I had never been attracted to bitework until I saw my first PSA trial.
04-01-2014 02:52 PM
Baillif People with the eye for it can tell a bad ass dog is a bad ass dog watching a bad ass dog do pretty much anything because they do it like a bad ass dog. For everyone else there is the scoreboard. Doesn't tell the whole story of course but it is as good a bench mark as any. The training required to squeeze the precision, accuracy, and intensity out of them to be competitive at the highest levels of that sport do a pretty good job filtering the wheat from the chaff in and of itself.
04-01-2014 02:52 PM
Packen Totally useless and make IPO/Schh so easy even high school kids can do it. So no point in working to achieve something so easy and watered down as it is even easier to just breed whatever After all it is a free country.
04-01-2014 02:41 PM
carmspack Patterns are not for me . I can't do them .

so what is the usefulness of the sport?

doesn't seem to say anything about intelligence of the dog . If an incompetent handler has a dog that dog won't display his genetics to the best - how , then are the best dogs chosen for breeding . Or are they?
04-01-2014 01:12 PM
lsatov Well said Cliff.
I compete in IPO, I train the dog, then the behavior. Never do patterns, never have difficulty with transitions. I do get high in trial.
I find not doing pattern training increases engagement and attention on me.

That being said will be working on IPO2 and 3 this summer will see how this approach works.
04-01-2014 12:48 PM
wolfstraum Cliff said it all....and very well!

Lee
04-01-2014 11:02 AM
Wild Wolf
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The German Shepherd should be one of the most intuitive, thinking dog in the working world. The breed was built on discernment and the ability to recognize certain elements and react/act. It was built to freely express certain behavior when confronted with certain circumstances within the boundaries of their training....ie Herding dog or LE dog. As a sport dog for points, I think that pattern training is the surest way to highest point objective for most people. I think that people that are heavily involved in sport( IPO in particular) tend to place very high value on pattern training, but for people training working dogs( and my definition of working dog is a dog that must execute their training in different places, different circumstances, and have no idea what to expect from day to day as these changes or unknowns surface,( like SAR dog, Guide dog, LE dog, or real herding dog), then dog training ( of which pattern training is a part) is needed for dog to be capable to effectively deal with unknown elements and use their ability to discern and act.
I personally think extreme pattern training is an insult to the ability/capability of this breed, but I fully understand it's evolution, just as I understand the evolution of IPO from testing of breedworthiness to high sport competition.
Very well said.
04-01-2014 10:51 AM
onyx'girl stress relief is the common bond....
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