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03-29-2014 09:56 PM
wyoung2153 I just might. I say I do a lot of things for fun.. and I tend to go balls to the wall with anything.. that's why I was so upset at myself for pausing SAR training. I put a lot of time into that. I suspect I will do much of the same with this I am one to challenge myself so this seems to be doing just that.. haha.
03-29-2014 08:18 PM
Karla I know you said you're not competing for anything, but you might just change your mind. This training can become addicting! Trials are my reward for the work my dog and I do together. It gives me goals and once achieved, I'm ready for more.

Glad you caught your mistake. These dogs are so smart and then they think they know what to do without being told. Keep 'em guessing all the time.

Let me ask you something…………..does he down from a sit? If so, you will want to teach the "stand" and then teach the fold back down like the sphinx. This will give you a cleaner drop and also sets him up to get up and run in on the recall.

Teach the stand/stay like you would teach the sit/stay or down/stay. Work distance and duration separately and then distractions.
03-29-2014 07:46 PM
Originally Posted by Karla View Post
son to keep on coming into you.

Mix up straight recalls with the down on recall to keep your dog guessing. If you practice the down on recalls only, they start dropping whether you gave the command or not.

Good luck!
Funny we were doing them yesterday in the yard and I was getting frustrated because I'd say "here" and he would come but hesitate because he thought I would down him. Noob mistake.. caught last night though. We were doing straight recalls today too he's good at down from a distance.. One we are working with too is "stand" he never learned that so it's new to him. If I walk away from him, he automatically sits or downs.
03-29-2014 07:26 PM
Karla Good info there Baillif!

Wyoung, can you stand your dog and walk away and down it from a distance? I taught it by breaking it down and working on down from a distance and once when he was proficient on downing from a distance then I would combine the two parts.

I also did a lot of drops and then released to get the toy or food that I'd throw behind him. This helped in stopping forward movement. If the reward is with you, that tends to give them a reason to keep on coming into you.

Mix up straight recalls with the down on recall to keep your dog guessing. If you practice the down on recalls only, they start dropping whether you gave the command or not.

Good luck!
03-29-2014 06:38 PM
wyoung2153 K so I was wrong.. He isn't 100% on it yet.
03-29-2014 06:21 PM
Baillif Depends on whether your dog really knows the down in motion or not. If he doesn't know it it was unfair. If he does know it then I don't see an issue with it per se.
03-29-2014 06:08 PM
wyoung2153 Awesome.. thanks for breaking it down barney style.. I sometimes need that

So since I have never really marked, would it make sense to start with the basics, that I know he is solid on to introduce the marking?

I am also curious on your punishment for screwing up? I sometimes don't know what is ok to do and appropriate for OB mess ups. He's a good dog otherwise, never usually have to punish for bad behavior in general. So like today when he kept coming when I told him down I said No, followed by a scruff grab to bring him to the point that i said "platz" and made him down in the spot and said good and we continued. How wrong was I there?
03-29-2014 06:03 PM
Baillif You ready?- marks the start of obedience. Direct unwavering attention is required.

Yes- free to access reward and free until next command is given.

Good- keep doing what you're doing. On the right track for a yes. Early on a good might get rewards too but behavior must be maintained. I use nice here sometimes too.

Free- dog can stop doing whatever.

All done- obedience is over and you are free for whatever. No longer in working mode.

No- you screwed up punishment probably incoming.
03-29-2014 05:56 PM
wyoung2153 Do you clicker? or how do you personally mark?
03-29-2014 05:52 PM
Baillif Yeah pocket the frisbee or hide in different places command, once it's done, mark, then reach to pull it out and throw. Be safe some like to fly at it as soon as it's visible. Never get into too much of a pattern about where it comes from until you are sure the dog is clear on the reward item meaning nothing until a marker to get it comes.
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