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03-28-2014 10:31 AM
Sri Good job! And thank you for pointing out that perhaps they do better as they age. That is what I am hoping for now that he is 13 months old and has his own mind!

I know I have been tempted to use the flexi for training recalls. just seemed so much better than a long line wrapped all around the dog's legs.


Scary experience though, Oisin's Aoire. And great presense of mind! I would have just been freaking out I think.
03-27-2014 05:52 PM
Oisin's Aoire Oh , and..ever since that incident I keep a leatherman tool with me all the time in case I ever need to cut something. I am always walking with dogs on leads , kids in 5 point harness on strollers and stuff. There was another thread here where a dog got his lead caught in an elevator door . I use to use a flexi with ,my jack Russell and it got really hung up in bushes and/or trees a few times. I also have had a a hard tiume getting my kids out of harness when my fingers were cold/numb. So a nice leatherman is always on my person
03-27-2014 05:47 PM
Oisin's Aoire It sounds like you were in a more reasonable area than a busy park with lots of pedestrians and other leashed dog traffic , and it sounds like your dogs were way more under your control than the labradoodle I mentioned in my post.

I think what bothered me most about "my" incident is that the guy had tunnel vision and was way more worried about me setting his dog free than he was of my baby getting hurt due to his negligence. He screamed " don't let him go , he'll run away!" Well who gives a you know what? So the guy had a dog that was a flight risk , was well over 90 pounds , on a 26 ft leash?? That is why flexis get such a bad rap , because of people like that. Your dogs obviously listen , which is why I specified that it was not directed at you

Let's face it , it is usually it is a little dog that winds everybody up and trips them , when when a big powerful dog goes feral on a flexi fingers get pulled off and stuff.
03-27-2014 02:53 PM
Zeeva
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Originally Posted by Oisin's Aoire View Post
I was walking my well behaved dog with my 18 month old in a stroller. A big giant Labradoodle type was on a pretty long flexi , fully extended , and his owner could not reel him in before he bounded up on us wanting to play with my dog.

Well , he was going around and around trying to get my dog to play ( who stayed in his heel and was getting quite nervous ..this jerky dog wound the flexi across my son's face , and he was a big strong dog. I grabbed the LD's collar and snicked off his flexi as his owner was begging me not to because he would run away. I was nice enough to hold his dog's collar..which was a prong , so he did not take off. I really did not have to do that.

I asked him if his dog was not off lead trustworthy or under his control , why on earth would he think 26 feet of string was a good idea?

He could have garotted my kid. My toddler had marks across his face and chest from the friction. There is no cursing allowed on here , but you can imagine a few choice words I have for flexis.

Not directed at OP ..just wanted to vent that flexis are not a good choice for a dog that still needs lead training , unless you are going to be someplace super safe.
I thought about this post for a while and I know it's not directed at me but I feel compelled to reply...it did take me a while to figure out what to say though...

I'm pretty set in my ways of using a flexi with a prong. The mentality that 'that won't happen to us' kind of scares me though because your experience is terrifying and frankly I've gotten 'flexi burn' before too...

This forum sometimes provides very polarizing forms of experiences and I guess you have to find a 'middle' and a 'comfort zone' somewhere...

I'm not trying to rationalize my use of a flexi with a prong BUT! I always scan the distant horizon for any potential threats or things that we may threaten. This includes looking behind me regularly. Our walks usually consist of a short sidewalk area parallel to busy street where we don't run into people often. If we do end up with a biker, jogger etc going by I always walk into the bushes (no sidewalk area) and let them pass by with the pups on a tight leash. And then we end up in a large school field where we usually only encounter a few people in the distance. Smokey's recall is decent not just for a husky but for a dog in general and especially when he is on a flexi. He learned very quickly not to run to the end of the flexi line because of the prong...

I don't mean to offend...Just wanted to put it out there...

Sorry for the ramble.
03-26-2014 11:56 PM
Blanketback That's great You really should have put this story in the brag section, since they both did so well. Goods sits, and no fluffy morsels, lol. The prong with a flexi sounds scary to me, but only because I think of the flexi as the next best thing to off leash and don't expect to have to reel it in like that.
03-26-2014 11:39 PM
Zeeva
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LOL with a Husky... uh no anything that gets him back!!
Lol. Right?!? Thanks...for a husky, he actually has amazing recall...but my heart doesn't trust him...
03-26-2014 11:21 PM
Chip18
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I've never mentioned this before because I think it may be bonkers to do...but I use a prong with a retractable for my husky Smokey...It's amazing how much control I've got with the prong and still how much freedom I can give him on the retractable...

Is it so wrong/weird to do that?
LOL with a Husky... uh no anything that gets him back!!
03-26-2014 11:20 PM
Chip18
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We went for our usual walk the other day. There's a school with a large fenced off area that includes 4 or 5 baseball fields and a soccer field.

Zeeva was off leash and Smokey was on his 20-25ft retractable. These two shih tzus came up to us. Zeeva's recall was superb (but it happened so fast I don't know if she recalled before she saw the two little dogs). I grabbed the 'D' on her prong and held on for dear life. Smokey was getting in an altercation with one of the dogs as I attempted to reel him in. Just when I thought I had lost control, I asked them to sit and they did...it was like a ray of sunshine breaking through rain clouds. The two little dogs kept barking but eventually returned to their owner who apologized from afar...

I didn't post this in the brag section because I still wish I didn't have to have so much drama when an off leash dog approaches us...I wish I could trust them...

But it got me thinking a bit. Does age make a difference as to how obedient a dog is? If people would wait it out a few years before thinking about rehoming or putting their dog in a shelter...I was in that boat a while ago but I feel like with a little bit of age, my two have become more docile and manageable and that's without any formal training...isn't the most common age for a dog to be placed in a shelter under the age of 2ish? I really do believe waiting a few years makes the world of a difference, don't you?
Great job and great work.

Only think I would add is that I prefer a "Stay" myself if it's "real' dogs coming at you, in a sit your dog is at a disadvantage.
03-26-2014 11:13 PM
wyoung2153 It's always awesome when our dogs respond to us the way we hope. Even if you aren't sure if it was for the reason you wanted it to be (simply listening, or just opportune moment) whatever the case may be, they did it! and nothing happened!

That's interesting about the prong and flexi.. never would have guessed but I don't know why it would make a difference vs regular leash. As long as it's used properly like the other.

For the age and attitude thing.. hmm.. that's a good question. I know Titan seems to have been maturing a bit in the last few months. He hit his 4 year mark. But he is also getting more stubborn and set in his ways, thankfully i make sure his ways are the way I want, lol. My parents have senior dogs, the oldest being a 14 y/o lab. He is a butthead.. an absolute PITA. lol. Though that is largely due to no training done by my parents, but he is getting worse and worse. Almost as if he's like "dude, I'm old a dirt, and I don't care anymore." Lol.
03-26-2014 10:58 PM
Oisin's Aoire I was walking my well behaved dog with my 18 month old in a stroller. A big giant Labradoodle type was on a pretty long flexi , fully extended , and his owner could not reel him in before he bounded up on us wanting to play with my dog.

Well , he was going around and around trying to get my dog to play ( who stayed in his heel and was getting quite nervous ..this jerky dog wound the flexi across my son's face , and he was a big strong dog. I grabbed the LD's collar and snicked off his flexi as his owner was begging me not to because he would run away. I was nice enough to hold his dog's collar..which was a prong , so he did not take off. I really did not have to do that.

I asked him if his dog was not off lead trustworthy or under his control , why on earth would he think 26 feet of string was a good idea?

He could have garotted my kid. My toddler had marks across his face and chest from the friction. There is no cursing allowed on here , but you can imagine a few choice words I have for flexis.

Not directed at OP ..just wanted to vent that flexis are not a good choice for a dog that still needs lead training , unless you are going to be someplace super safe.
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