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03-24-2014 06:34 PM
stmcfred I've always had her sit and wait for food, going out/in doors, etc.. I usually put her in a long down stay once a day. Either while I'm watching tv or working on the computer. I do really need to work on the demand attention thing. I need to work with Connor on that as well.



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Not just obedience, though that will help. Deference. Sitting on command before feeding, staying in down while watching TV, moving out if your way as you walk, not demanding attention, that's what's gong to help. She needs to realize she does not get an opinion. Her age, heat imminent, she is going to push. You gotta push back.


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03-24-2014 06:29 PM
stmcfred Both my dogs are usually in the same room as I am. It's very rare that I am somewhere without a dog by my feet. Unless Lola is crated she is always by me. If I leave the room, she follows. So it makes it easy to figure out who starts it.

The last several times something happened it was only because Connor approached me. I've taken away any toys and bones that had originally caused problems and that helped.


When they do get into it, Lola is more vocal but Connor does bark back. Then he acts like the wounded victim.

It did seem better today. Only one instance from this morning. I even had both dogs laying beside me peacefully today too.


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I've been through this is younger Harry and older Lola.

To manage, I try and see what happened first because older Lola may have instigated a reaction from Harry or given him a hard nip and all I see and hear is the end of it. So if I can't work out what happened to make Harry act like an ejit, then I discipline both by making them sit on their mats, or put a lead on both of them at home and wander around with them on lead.

I basically take control and make them perform some basic obedience.

Just remember, your Lola might be like my Harry - quite vocal! And sometimes we just don't see what happened to cause the reaction, so treat them both equally and discipline both together.
03-24-2014 06:22 PM
gsdsar
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Thanks. I work with her daily on obedience. I'll kick it up a notch though.

Not just obedience, though that will help. Deference. Sitting on command before feeding, staying in down while watching TV, moving out if your way as you walk, not demanding attention, that's what's gong to help. She needs to realize she does not get an opinion. Her age, heat imminent, she is going to push. You gotta push back.


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03-24-2014 06:17 PM
stmcfred Thanks. I work with her daily on obedience. I'll kick it up a notch though.



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I agree with this. I'd step up her obedience and really show her that she has to defer to you. Even if it is a heat cycle beginning, you don't want this behavior to continue. I noticed when Onyx was that age she started to control/herd my senior female Clover. She won the crate anytime she started in. When the seniors start failing, some younger dogs take that opportunity to be a bully.
03-24-2014 06:13 PM
Harry and Lola I've been through this is younger Harry and older Lola.

To manage, I try and see what happened first because older Lola may have instigated a reaction from Harry or given him a hard nip and all I see and hear is the end of it. So if I can't work out what happened to make Harry act like an ejit, then I discipline both by making them sit on their mats, or put a lead on both of them at home and wander around with them on lead.

I basically take control and make them perform some basic obedience.

Just remember, your Lola might be like my Harry - quite vocal! And sometimes we just don't see what happened to cause the reaction, so treat them both equally and discipline both together.
03-24-2014 05:30 PM
onyx'girl
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Honestly it sounds like resource guarding. I would treat it as such. She needs strong NILF. It's your house and she does not get to decide where the other dogs or sees or gets petted by.
I agree with this. I'd step up her obedience and really show her that she has to defer to you. Even if it is a heat cycle beginning, you don't want this behavior to continue. I noticed when Onyx was that age she started to control/herd my senior female Clover. She won the crate anytime she started in. When the seniors start failing, some younger dogs take that opportunity to be a bully.
03-24-2014 01:06 PM
Blanketback Yeah, that sounds good - I do that too. The only trouble with it is that sometimes the pups think that this attention is perfectly fine too, and then it can be reinforcing. I'd follow up with some crate time, or a long down/stay on a bed, and then also ignore the pup for a while. Show no mercy, lol. Without actual beatings, of course
03-24-2014 01:05 PM
stmcfred It does sound like it. I will check it out now.


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Honestly it sounds like resource guarding. I would treat it as such. She needs strong NILF. It's your house and she does not get to decide where the other dogs or sees or gets petted by.


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03-24-2014 01:03 PM
stmcfred
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You need to pay very close attention to both of them and try to figure out what's provoking this. Aside from guarding your space and hogging your attention, it could be that your older make is starting something too. It's pretty easy to tell when poop will hit the fan if you really watch their posture and facial expressions.

ETA: I don't recommend a prong correction and flipping her over unless you know for a fact, without a shadow of a doubt, that she's the instigator. Otherwise, you're going to be in the middle of something that has the potential to go very wrong. Even then, there are better ways to handle it.

I am 100% sure it is Lola. Connor can be doing nothing but sitting by me and Lola will come up and start in on him.
03-24-2014 01:00 PM
stmcfred I said "No, enough" in a very firm tone and grab (not too hard) the fur on the back of her neck (she did not have a prong collar on). It did take a couple times of saying No, but she did stop growling and I then had her down. Then I praised her but didn't release the down. I had her stay there for a few minutes and she was fine after that.

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I'm wondering how you got her settled down after her growling episodes. Unless you put your foot down, and told her this was unacceptable, she might have it in her cute little head that she's not doing anything wrong.
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