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03-23-2014 04:05 PM
ramu3527 That's awesome! I've wanted to start a similar blog myself...
03-23-2014 12:35 AM
Serbrider Thanks guys. I'm glad that what I'm seeing is a valid concern and not just blatantly ignorant.

I have a blog I've started and done on and off where I do what I call "fact based vents". I start with a topic that is on my mind. Usually involving animals, but could have to do with people or ideas. And then I give a small vent explaining my point, and back up every claim with linked source info. In some cases they are peer reviewed journals, others are mission statements from various organizations, others are simply dictionary definitions. And then put my case forth.

I mean... That's the intention. I think since I started it I only have 3 entries. But I haven't had anything on my mind since then. And now I do. will share the blog link when I've finished with this particular subject, which will probably have multiple parts. First part is understanding the difference between fear based aggression, dominance based aggression, prey based aggression, resource guarding, protective behavior, and such.

But yeah. Mostly it's for me, to get these darn things out of my head so I can actually sleep.


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03-22-2014 10:14 PM
selzer I think that I might have suggested training the dog to protect on command, and to out on command. Much safer for the dog and the owner, and everyone the dog comes in contact with.

I didn't see it as cute at all. I see a dog that is likely to be euthanized when the baby comes.
03-22-2014 09:38 PM
ramu3527
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I couldn't even watch that for 15 seconds without wanting to take an electric shock collar to that guido skinhead wanna be hard guy.
LMAO...WOW! Hate men much?! That guy did absolutely nothing to deserve that comment. Sheesh!

As far as the OP's concerns, absolutely! I know little about dogs and next to nothing about training dogs but I would totally agree. They are encouraging that behavior in that dog. That dog could very well be a danger to not only the new baby but others.

Scary...
03-19-2014 01:30 PM
Serbrider
"Protecting the baby"... am I overreacting?

So many people on other sites are commenting (bc I googled to see if any dog trainers or behaviorists had made a comment) about how dogs just "know" when you are pregnant, and one woman who became pregnant and her normally aggressive horse became calm and docile, someone else who says their dog would guard their lump and then the baby afterwards.... URGH.

Yes. We emit new smells and have hormones related to pregnancy. But horses don't act differently around pregnant horses. Dogs don't just "know" another dog is pregnant and start guarding them from anything and everything. That is how people end up with "surprise" babies from animals. Because while the individual animal may have physical and behavioral changes, the other dogs don't think "oh, I can tell she's pregnant so I won't nip at her stomach anymore". They might get nipped at for doing so and subsequently won't, but it's not from the magick pregnant juices.

I could see a dog taking on its owner's fears, anxieties, or actions. If a pregnant woman starts defending her belly, eventually the dog will catch on and start defending it as well, especially if that dog is with her almost 24/7. Most people think it's cute and will praise it and encourage it. Sometimes it will go away and when the owner is no longer defending the bulge, but sometimes it will stick and the aggression is then redirected towards the baby, and the owners/parents are all upset and just can't understand why Fluffy hates little Johnny, they either think the dog is aggressive and then rehome, or it's "just jealousy" and the dog ends up separated from the family and neglected.

Now, granted, this isn't the case 100% of the time, but does tend to happen far more often then people would care to admit, and instead, they continue to think it's cute and believe in the magickal 18th sense a dog has to protect a baby bump.


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03-19-2014 12:39 PM
SunCzarina I couldn't even watch that for 15 seconds without wanting to take an electric shock collar to that guido skinhead wanna be hard guy. Yes it's their prerogative to raise their dogs like idiots. I can only hope it doesn't hurt their baby.
03-19-2014 12:17 PM
ZoeD1217 I thought it was disturbing. My grandma had a dog that did that. Apparently bc she was a small dog it was OK that she was biting all the grandkids *eyeroll*

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03-19-2014 12:11 PM
Lilie It's all fun and games until the dog has to be euthanized because it resource guards after the baby is born. You won't find a video with everyone giggling and thinking taking doggie to the vet/shelter to be killed is cute. Nope, you won't find that one on U-Tube.
03-19-2014 10:41 AM
Sunflowers I think so many people mistake resource guarding for protectiveness.
03-19-2014 10:31 AM
Gwenhwyfair Nothing wrong with exposing and explaining the real potential downsides and dangers of this IMO.
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