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03-14-2014 07:47 PM
maxdog630
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
I tend to agree.
I do realize that now. I thought this was the way to correct dog aggression. Looking back I do regret.. I'm gathering a lot of training at this club is fear based? I don't have the dog training knowledge to judge so I really shouldn't say.

It just seems so difficult to find a good trainer. Everyone states they are experts. If you met my dog you would think she was as gentle as a kitten and she is for the most part - it just that one issue. No treats for obedience anymore just her tug as a reward and my praise. I never used a trainer before, just loved my dogs and treated them like my babies, then I decided to try out the Schutzund club and everything went to crap.

Thanks for the advice.
03-14-2014 06:40 PM
Chip18
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I would find a new class if any told me what I had to have my dog in. There is no need for either with reactivity because you should absolutely not be correcting a reactive dog, especially in a poorly fitted collar. A choke chain can do a lot of damage as well, for what it's worth.
I tend to agree.
03-14-2014 05:53 PM
DJEtzel
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Honestly, at training I was told she needs her prong and choke collar on for barking at other dogs. Which doesn't happen anymore unless she is approached closely by another dog. We can walk up to and shake hands with other members in training and her focus stays on me - no signs of aggression but when we did start last Oct she lunged at another dog. That dog wasn't on a leash and did come up to her but the trainer feels that she shouldn't react to a do a dog regardless..

I have read about the martingale I will go look at that tomorrow but I'm pretty certain that I will be told she cant wait that in class.
I would find a new class if any told me what I had to have my dog in. There is no need for either with reactivity because you should absolutely not be correcting a reactive dog, especially in a poorly fitted collar. A choke chain can do a lot of damage as well, for what it's worth.
03-14-2014 04:41 PM
maxdog630
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Originally Posted by DJEtzel View Post
Is there a reason a flat or martingale collar wouldn't work? I prefer them usually.
Honestly, at training I was told she needs her prong and choke collar on for barking at other dogs. Which doesn't happen anymore unless she is approached closely by another dog. We can walk up to and shake hands with other members in training and her focus stays on me - no signs of aggression but when we did start last Oct she lunged at another dog. That dog wasn't on a leash and did come up to her but the trainer feels that she shouldn't react to a do a dog regardless..

I have read about the martingale I will go look at that tomorrow but I'm pretty certain that I will be told she cant wait that in class.
03-14-2014 04:32 PM
DJEtzel
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Thanks, yes I do usually catch the signs but sometimes I'm in a spot where I'm stuck. I want to scream at people, believe me, but I just try and move along
I will start this tomorrow as I do my shopping rounds with my girl for socialization.
One more question, sorry, what collar would you suggest I use on a day to day basis? Some history - yes, we are in a training class but I was never taught the proper use of the prong collar and I believe my dog is desensitized. I found a video on this forum which showed me the fitting I had was incorrect. Bad mistake on my part..... and I did bring it to the attention of the trainer who then said yes, it was too loose. Thanks again.
Is there a reason a flat or martingale collar wouldn't work? I prefer them usually.
03-14-2014 04:29 PM
maxdog630 I don't mean to hijack this thread. Just read the suggestions on here and they seem logical to me.
03-14-2014 04:26 PM
Jax08
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I hope I'm doing it correctly. I started with showing her an object and when she looked marked with "yes" then she looked at me and got a treat. Once she was doing this consistently I would say look at that while pulling out the object mark with yes then she looked at me for a treat. Before long I would say look at that she would look at the object then right back at me expecting the treat to come.
Sounds perfect!
03-14-2014 04:24 PM
maxdog630 Thanks, yes I do usually catch the signs but sometimes I'm in a spot where I'm stuck. I want to scream at people, believe me, but I just try and move along
I will start this tomorrow as I do my shopping rounds with my girl for socialization.
One more question, sorry, what collar would you suggest I use on a day to day basis? Some history - yes, we are in a training class but I was never taught the proper use of the prong collar and I believe my dog is desensitized. I found a video on this forum which showed me the fitting I had was incorrect. Bad mistake on my part..... and I did bring it to the attention of the trainer who then said yes, it was too loose. Thanks again.
03-14-2014 04:21 PM
Okin I hope I'm doing it correctly. I started with showing her an object and when she looked marked with "yes" then she looked at me and got a treat. Once she was doing this consistently I would say look at that while pulling out the object mark with yes then she looked at me for a treat. Before long I would say look at that she would look at the object then right back at me expecting the treat to come.
03-14-2014 04:14 PM
DJEtzel
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Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
That is how I shaped it, Danielle. I would point at something inanimate and click for the dog looking. My reward line was back and up so the dog had to look back and up to get the treat. Once they have that, then I clicked for looking and looking back at me.

It is very important to start in a quite place with an inanimate object and work distractions in. It might take a week or might take a month to actually work on what the dog is reactive to.
That's a good idea, too. I've never done it this way, but it would work just as well, I'm sure! Do you use a cue, then? I'm not sure I understand how the dog would know to look at a dog (that it was reactive to) and then back to you, based on this?
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