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03-24-2014 06:42 PM
Fade2Black
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Originally Posted by Messa View Post
Havoc is gorgeous, I've seen a few pictures of him while searching about for any posts about Tracy and her dogs! I'm sorry to hear that Kaos is no longer with you. Do you do any sport training with Havoc?
Thanx Much....

No I don't. I don't doubt he could do well at it though. He's like the energizer bunny. Havoc was purchased as a companion pup in a forever home. With the limited registration papers. I just wanted some of Kevin V. Murrtal's bloodline in a pup (like my Kaos). When I told Tracy my Kaos was a grandson of her Kevin you could hear the hurt in her voice talking about him. He had passed away 4 or 5 months earlier. He lived a full life 14 and a half....

Tracy was also recommended to me by Kearanen Talo German Shepherds. She had saw a post of mine a year or so before I got Havoc talking about Kevin being Kaos grandfather. She doesn't breed often but was expecting a litter. Told me her Brinx was a Kevin son. He looks exactly like Kaos father. The female was a therapy GSD. But unfortunately I didn't have the $$ available. So she told me when I was ready get a pup off Tracy. I wouldn't be sorry. Tracy is also very reasonable price for companion pups compared to some others. If I ever have the $$$ I will get another male GSD off Tracy (or Kearanen Talo. But I only saw her having one litter for sale in over two years).....

This is her site Kearanen Talo Heritage I believe she had told me she travels the US training therapy dogs and does other training. She titles all her own GSD's. I am sure she would talk to you about and recommend a Bullinger puppy......
03-24-2014 11:23 AM
holland
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Originally Posted by Sabis mom View Post
I like Bullinger, and as breeders go Tracy is awesome. I have been watching her dogs for years and would be going to her for a pup but for that she does NOT test for DM. For me that's a deal breaker, for others maybe not so much. I will say that the dogs she is breeding now do not compare with her dogs of 10-15 years ago. But if you want a breeder who knows HER dogs and offers lifetime support, she's it.
that wouldn't be a deal breaker for me-not even close-the last dog I bought was before everyone was doing DM testing-my rescue dog had DM-but I am so glad I had the dog
03-24-2014 01:50 AM
Sabis mom I can't really point at anything, just that her dogs from years ago had something 'more'. She is serious, and dedicated. Knows her dogs, and knows bloodlines. She has worked hard, made lots of contacts and paid her dues. She will not pull any punches, and will not tell you what you want to hear. I have nothing but respect for the woman.
03-24-2014 01:19 AM
Messa
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Originally Posted by Sabis mom View Post
I like Bullinger, and as breeders go Tracy is awesome. I have been watching her dogs for years and would be going to her for a pup but for that she does NOT test for DM. For me that's a deal breaker, for others maybe not so much. I will say that the dogs she is breeding now do not compare with her dogs of 10-15 years ago. But if you want a breeder who knows HER dogs and offers lifetime support, she's it.
I met a woman at a schutzhund club I visited today who first started speaking to me about her pregnant female but quickly realized that a very hard strictly working dog isn't what I'm after. She recommended a breeder in Oregon, and then she recommended Tracy. She said she's had dogs from both Tracys A and B litters, but now that I think about it I should have asked if her dogs are still as good as they use to be.

When you say they don't compare to the dogs she bred years ago, how exactly do you mean? Worse temperaments, inability to work? The woman from the club contacted Tracy for me on the spot so I'll be getting in contact with her very soon, so I just want to know what to expect.

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Messa, I had exactly the same experience with my Gracie, RIP. Bad breeding, weak nerves, very high prey drive, bad hips etc. and the best we could do was "manage" her for 9 years. Luckily, we were able to do that as we did not have any kids at home and were not in the situation where we had to try to rehome her or have her euthanized. It certainly taught me a lot of what to look for in my next GSD. I was not looking specifically for a SL or a WL but wanted the healthiest dog with the most even temperament I could get. I believe that's what I have in my Jazz. She is now 15 weeks, 3/4 of the way through puppy kindergarten and is doing great. She's a breeze to train, night and day from Gracie. As she continues to develop, so do my plans, which as of now are to obtain her CGC, then from there go on to agility (she appears to like it so far) and we might even progress to a therapy dog with the St. John Ambulance, if she proves to have the affinity for it. If you want to meet Jazz as an example of a Bullinger puppy, just PM me. Meanwhile, good luck with your search and take your time.
Thank you! I will most likely PM you some time soon to meet with you and your new pup! I would love to see how a Bullinger Shepherds pup is doing.
03-23-2014 05:37 PM
Sabis mom
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Originally Posted by carmspack View Post
IF not testing for DM is a deal breaker , the potential buyer can request as part of the sale condition to have their pup tested. Say on time of deposit ?

Provide a kit from Animal DNA Testing Services , have them swab and submit and the report comes back to you.

It is so easy to find out what the status is , quick and inexpensive.

I could do that but for me personally, I want breeders who test their breeding stock.

I get that other people have other priorities, and Tracy is good at what she does. But having watched DM rip my girl from me one piece at a time I could never dishonor her memory by buying a pup from untested parents.
03-23-2014 05:03 PM
carmspack IF not testing for DM is a deal breaker , the potential buyer can request as part of the sale condition to have their pup tested. Say on time of deposit ?

Provide a kit from Animal DNA Testing Services , have them swab and submit and the report comes back to you.

It is so easy to find out what the status is , quick and inexpensive.
03-23-2014 04:47 PM
Sabis mom I like Bullinger, and as breeders go Tracy is awesome. I have been watching her dogs for years and would be going to her for a pup but for that she does NOT test for DM. For me that's a deal breaker, for others maybe not so much. I will say that the dogs she is breeding now do not compare with her dogs of 10-15 years ago. But if you want a breeder who knows HER dogs and offers lifetime support, she's it.
03-23-2014 11:39 AM
graciesmom
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Originally Posted by Messa View Post
My last dog (not a GSD) was the result of terrible breeding that ended in severe behavioral problems, which could barely be made somewhat manageable at home by a good number of trainers. He was a complete nervebag, outside of the house he was a liability to put it lightly. I definitely do not want to go through that again, so a good temperament isn't something I'm willing to sacrifice on.
Messa, I had exactly the same experience with my Gracie, RIP. Bad breeding, weak nerves, very high prey drive, bad hips etc. and the best we could do was "manage" her for 9 years. Luckily, we were able to do that as we did not have any kids at home and were not in the situation where we had to try to rehome her or have her euthanized. It certainly taught me a lot of what to look for in my next GSD. I was not looking specifically for a SL or a WL but wanted the healthiest dog with the most even temperament I could get. I believe that's what I have in my Jazz. She is now 15 weeks, 3/4 of the way through puppy kindergarten and is doing great. She's a breeze to train, night and day from Gracie. As she continues to develop, so do my plans, which as of now are to obtain her CGC, then from there go on to agility (she appears to like it so far) and we might even progress to a therapy dog with the St. John Ambulance, if she proves to have the affinity for it. If you want to meet Jazz as an example of a Bullinger puppy, just PM me. Meanwhile, good luck with your search and take your time.
03-23-2014 03:10 AM
Messa I have looked briefly into breeders in Washington, I haven't heard of Waldkonig before though. Von Waldberg and Vom Banach are the two closest, and I've read some good things about Vom Banach so hopefully I'll be able to make it down that way relatively soon. Opinions?
03-23-2014 02:16 AM
Nigel If you want to look into WLs, there are some breeders just south of you in Washington, Schraderhaus, Waldkonig, there's more, just can't remember at the moment.
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