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03-07-2014 12:35 AM
huntergreen when i am ready to add another gsd, i will just post what i am looking for in a pup and wait for some respected breeders on the forum to guide me to the correct breeders.
03-06-2014 10:31 PM
nicky Man, I wish I would of found this forum and this thread before I got my pup

OP, keep researching and do what your gut tells you to do
03-05-2014 08:18 PM
selzer But it sounds like she is requiring certified checks only. That takes the question out of it somewhat. I mean a personal check, and they have the puppy, and well, some buyers might stop payment or pay with a fraudulent check, or have insufficient funds. Every breeder will get burned sooner or later. I have found though that the majority of people are trustworthy, and even those that have made payments on the pup, all have paid them off, even though I would have a terrible time collecting on the debt if they chose not to.

Sometimes you have to trust people. You can ask for cash only, or you can hold papers until the check clears, but, the AKC says papers go with the dog. So, really, if the people complain to the AKC that they did not get their papers, and they contact you, and you tell them they did not pay for the dog in full, the AKC will frown on that.

If you are accepting cash or certified check only, than, people should be able to pay on the day they pick the pup up. If the dog needs to be shipped, then I can understand wanting all of that in advance so shipping arrangements can be set up.
03-05-2014 03:25 PM
wolfstraum I don't ask for deposits until the litter is a sure thing....and usually don't even cash them until the litter is born and I can make a rough count on sex/color ....I prefer the pup is paid for prior to leaving...papers stay here until all is 100%

Nothing unusual about these terms...with scams etc, it is good business to make sure checks are good....I know a few people who sold dogs and never got paid...

03-05-2014 01:47 PM
CelticGlory I have seen this before, it was explained on another breeder's website that for the puppies that have to be flown out of state, it gives the breeder time to set up the flight details before the puppies are 8 weeks old.

Did you ask this breeder if you could transfer your money to another litter? The only thing I don't like is the 1 year only guarantee, more than the replacement only clause. OFA prelims is at 12 months, most contracts like this; the breeder wants the x-rays or dog to be examined by their own vet before replacement! What if they drag that on until the contract is up? Would they say that you are out of luck? What if you do prelims just two weeks before the contract is over? Would you still be out of luck for a replacement? Who pays for the flight so the puppy can go back to breeder? You? The breeder?

Another thing I would question the breeder about, how often does she breed? 1-3 litters per year or when she wants to breed to add to her breeding program? If that is the case, can you wait that long for a new puppy to be born?

Don't get me wrong, I don't know this breeder; however, this is something I have questioned when reading these types of contracts before. I would also ask how many puppies have had to be replaced before and see what she tells you. That would be my biggest concern, if it is too often I would pass. If almost never depending on how long she has been breeding, I would look more into her breeding program. See if you can find previous owners of her puppies to see their experience. Even put the name into google to see if anything comes up!
03-05-2014 12:23 PM
Originally Posted by alexg View Post
This is so completely different from the OP's situation, I don't even know the purpose of this post.

And how is this post relevant to the OP's situation? The purpose is??? To berate someone else?

It's an open forum. nktigger should be able share her experience without harassment as well as anyone else. It is relevant as it is a trust issue between breeder and buyer.
03-05-2014 12:14 PM
Originally Posted by nktigger99 View Post
The breeder happens to be someone my husband has known all his life. ...
This is so completely different from the OP's situation, I don't even know the purpose of this post.
03-05-2014 11:26 AM
nktigger99 We paid for our pup in full around 4ish weeks....BUT it was our choice.....and if we were to change our mind we would get the majority back. The breeder happens to be someone my husband has known all his life. She contacted us saying she thought she had a puppy that would work for our family...she knew we have wanted a GSD, she also knew what we have been through this past year with the tornado and dealing with the aftermath of home damage and 4 kids dealing with the trauma. We pick our pup up on the 15th.

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03-05-2014 11:11 AM
martemchik The biggest problem is the amount of funds you'll end up having tied up with someone else. Sorry...but $2000 is a big chunk of change, and if the breeder takes another year to produce a pup for you, that's a long time to not have the ability to have $2000. What if something happens to your home and you need that money to fix it?

We've had SO many breeder horror stories due to contracts that don't allow for refunds...that I just can't suggest to anyone to risk it. It's quite difficult for a regular person to get back all their money from another person when it comes to bill of sale contracts, it takes time, and ultimately its unlikely you'll be made whole after other costs and things come into play. matter how much I trust someone to breed dogs, once money is involved things happen. I didn't sign my mortgage lien until I was getting the keys to the house and I didn't pay for my car until the keys were in my reason to do pay anyone for anything until you have the product (unless of course shipping is involved).
03-05-2014 10:21 AM
All money received by the breeder is non refundable, although there is a comprehensive one year health guarantee for complications due to genetic issues, with a replacement only policy.
Mala, payment in full is due by 6 wks & is non-refundable.
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