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04-12-2014 01:37 PM
Gwenhwyfair Given that Robean lives in Nepal he's probably facing a more challenging environment and some of the natural or holistic choices may not be available or advisable...depending.

I've found that in warmer climes parasites, internal and external are more persistent. I've tried some of the natural alternatives and they just did not work, especially in areas or conditions of heavy infestation.

*Most* of the dewormers have been around and safely used for many years.

IMO - It would be advisable to take a stool sample to the vet and go from there and then practice holistic/natural methods to prevent re-infestation.
04-12-2014 01:18 AM
Chip18
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Re: Flea and worm issue and the advice of spot-on or oral Vet scripted flea control and deworming medication...

Please do not take this advice...unless you want a set back or WORSE. Especially considering the "neurological" issues associated with this disease.

Spot-on flea control is a pesticide and is associated with seizures, neuro disorders and death. You do not have a healthy dog - NOT worth the risk. Period.
I think Food grade DE works for most worms but I ave no idea how quickly? I completely agree with the above about the topical fleas stuff! I saw this with a Himalayan cat we had years ago. We tried using a topical on her and she almost immediately started to drool! We immediately washed her off and she was fine...never again used anything toxic on her.

I would use Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth for flea control and I "think" it works on most worms save for heart worms? On the dog and in the house, more info here as a start:


Diatomaceous Earth (Food Grade) for natural flea control | CA GSP Rescue
04-11-2014 11:15 PM
GatorBytes
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Originally Posted by robeangyalchen View Post
i wish Tyson could read these
BTW...he does read them, he reads through your smile, body language and pheromones from all the positive energy...That is why he's healing
04-11-2014 11:01 PM
GatorBytes Re: Flea and worm issue and the advice of spot-on or oral Vet scripted flea control and deworming medication...

Please do not take this advice...unless you want a set back or WORSE. Especially considering the "neurological" issues associated with this disease.

Spot-on flea control is a pesticide and is associated with seizures, neuro disorders and death. You do not have a healthy dog - NOT worth the risk. Period.

Deworming can be done with some simple additions to the diet and address more then just tapeworms, which are assumed at this point b/c of fleas...however, in pics looked more stringy, so could be round worms...

Nonetheless, use these natural dewormers:

1) Garlic - 1 clove crushed per meal
2) RAW organic pumpkin seeds (will find amounts, cannot remember off top of my head, but start at least with 1/2 tsp per meal)...finely ground. You can roast ever so slightly if you think source is not fresh - you find them in cooler section of health food store.

Note: Pumpkin seeds are triple duty - they kill parasites, contain zinc which is imperative to healthy immune system (to help fight off the worms and deal with any residual effects from distemper) AND contain magnesium which is an essential mineral for smooth muscle contraction, neuro function, heart health and synergy with calcium//phos.

3) Black Walnut - 1/2 human dose...use for a week, then off for 5 days, do this for a month...continue with above, daily. Check back in.

Note: sometimes wormwood is recommended along side of black walnut, however, very specific wormwood...however, wormwood is a caution as it can have seizure and neuro effects - so I do NOT recommend....only under a holistic vet care

Continue with the neem. Is it just a pet neem based shampoo, or are You using "Neem Oil" in it's natural form?
04-11-2014 10:26 PM
katdog5911 Have been following this story and am so very happy Tyson is recovering. He is a beautiful dog and I hope he continues on his remarkable recovery. It is a testament to the dedication and love of his owners!
04-11-2014 05:36 PM
ZoeD1217 He's a beautiful boy! It's so nice to see him out and having fun. I hope you can get what you need to kill the fleas and tape worms. Good luck!

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04-11-2014 01:17 PM
robeangyalchen
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Originally Posted by Gwenhwyfair View Post
I've been following your thread and am so happy to see beautiful Tyson pulling through. He looks happy and energetic! You and your family have done a wonderful job caring for him. Nice gentle exercise you are giving will probably help.

As to the tape worms they will not appear in each bowel movement but based on the photo you posted earlier, he's got them internally.

In the U.S. the dewormer medications used for tape worms is called "praziquantel". Hopefully your vet will have them in stock.

It usually is given in the form of a pill to be taken orally. Here is a picture of a box of pills to give you an idea of what it looks like.

Thank you !! yes we are letting him to walk and play, we are not encouraging him to run at this point but if he does we do not stop him. He seems to be so better than before. And after what we have been through, we think we will be alright fighting flea and worms

Ok so it definitely is tape worm then. I do not think that vet will have petmedpros here but i will ask him about it. Thank you again for the image, that really helps.
04-11-2014 01:09 PM
robeangyalchen
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Congrats on the progress so far. You pup sure is a little fighter, he's so lucky to have such a committed family to get him through this ordeal!

Yep, sounds like you need some sort of flea treatment and a dewormer that is good for tapes. Make sure you wash all his bedding in hot water, vacuum well and treat your home as well. They can be tough to get rid of once the infestation has taken hold. But the good news is they can only live off animals, so if you can keep him flea-free, the population should die off after a while.
Thank you!

The dewormer and flea treatment is on top of our to do list for this weekend.
04-11-2014 01:03 PM
robeangyalchen
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To work the knots/matts out of the coat, I work cornstarch into the coat pretty heavily first. And I concentrate on those matted areas. Then I can carefully cut into the matt(s) and work them out. Cornstarch is my go-to on coated dogs.
Cornstarch is oil of corn??? sorry i am confuesd. We did try to make it untangle but it was hurting him so we decided to cut them off, little from behind both ears where he still had puppy fur. and some from his arm pits.
We noticed they were tangeling and the size was increasing so we had no choice but to cut em.
04-11-2014 12:58 PM
Gwenhwyfair I've been following your thread and am so happy to see beautiful Tyson pulling through. He looks happy and energetic! You and your family have done a wonderful job caring for him. Nice gentle exercise you are giving will probably help.

As to the tape worms they will not appear in each bowel movement but based on the photo you posted earlier, he's got them internally.

In the U.S. the dewormer medications used for tape worms is called "praziquantel". Hopefully your vet will have them in stock.

It usually is given in the form of a pill to be taken orally. Here is a picture of a box of pills to give you an idea of what it looks like.


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Thank you for the comments, he is on his 50 to 60% of his actual food so he is not heavy and is not putting on much weight.
His hind quarter is still little weak but i am sure it is improving everyday.
We are discussing to take him to vet this weekend.
Oh, and last thing, i took him to potty and i did not find anything in his poo this time.

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