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02-20-2014 10:34 PM
jocoyn You can go to tractor supply and buy a buggy whip and tie a toy on the end of it. Super cheap flirt pole. Viola!
02-20-2014 09:00 PM
gurlonfire2004
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Originally Posted by Jlmaiorana View Post
LOL sounds like a big cat toy. I kinda had an idea what it was. Thank you. I will have to get one.
It is! haha And when I got my puppy, I played with a cat toy like that with her. She is too strong for them now, though, so I invested in the flirt pole.
02-20-2014 08:56 PM
Jlmaiorana LOL sounds like a big cat toy. I kinda had an idea what it was. Thank you. I will have to get one.
02-20-2014 08:52 PM
gurlonfire2004
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Originally Posted by Jlmaiorana View Post
oh no, when she jumps on people and submissive pees, we don't correct. We know that is a sign of her respect towards the person and eventually it will stop. She is definitely not fearful at class. Her confidence level is through the roof. I think that's why she is so difficult. She wants to be in control and dominate the other pups and doesn't like to be told what to do. She does need more exercise though. Its hard to run her when I can't trust her off leash. We are preparing to fence our back yard in for her, but cannot do this until the spring. I know we should have had that done before we got her. My husband has played ball with her literally for 6hrs straight before and she is still bursting with energy. This mornings puppy school went well. There was only one other dog, but I dropped the leash pretty much the whole hour of training and she focused more than usual. It just gets frustrating at times. I keep hearing people say "get a flirt pool". What exactly is that? Anyone know any good indoor games to play (other than "find the ball or toy" and training) to stimulate her mind? She gets bord real fast.
A flirt pole is a pole with bungee cord on the end that you attach a toy to. (I didn't know what one was until a few months ago.) I bought this brand for my 3 month old puppy. She loves it, but I've only used it a couple of times, so I can't tell you how long it will last. (I actually bought the one without a toy. It was little bit cheaper and I just attached her favorite toy to the end of it.)

Squishy Face Flirt Pole Squishy Face Flirt Pole
02-20-2014 08:45 PM
Jlmaiorana oh no, when she jumps on people and submissive pees, we don't correct. We know that is a sign of her respect towards the person and eventually it will stop. She is definitely not fearful at class. Her confidence level is through the roof. I think that's why she is so difficult. She wants to be in control and dominate the other pups and doesn't like to be told what to do. She does need more exercise though. Its hard to run her when I can't trust her off leash. We are preparing to fence our back yard in for her, but cannot do this until the spring. I know we should have had that done before we got her. My husband has played ball with her literally for 6hrs straight before and she is still bursting with energy. This mornings puppy school went well. There was only one other dog, but I dropped the leash pretty much the whole hour of training and she focused more than usual. It just gets frustrating at times. I keep hearing people say "get a flirt pool". What exactly is that? Anyone know any good indoor games to play (other than "find the ball or toy" and training) to stimulate her mind? She gets bord real fast.
02-20-2014 06:02 PM
e.rigby A high energy dog needs exercise. If work schedules are not compatible with owning such a dog, then perhaps it's best to choose a different breed. I do agree that all dogs need to learn to settle, but I think it is unfair to expect a puppy that needs an outlet for its energy to just be 'ok' with limited exercise when they clearly need more than just a walk. 4 hours is a bit excessive, which, just make the time you have count. Allow the dog the ability to run. Fetch is a good game, so is using a flirt pole.
02-20-2014 01:53 PM
Msmaria
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I'm happy that both of you are able to work your schedule. I'm not sure what effort people that work during the day are NOT doing that they should. Umm, my place of employment is not open nights nor does my husband have control of his schedule. Agree with not enough exercise but I think it's crazy to think that a pup needs 4 hours of exercise a day. I think you're just setting them up to REQUIRE that instead of teaching them to settle in the house instead.
Agreed, dogs need to learn settle just incase. 4 hours a day is alot. I dont think most working people can do that much. It would be great if we could, but Im lucky if I get 4 hours to sleep..lol We aim for 30-40 mins in the morning and 1 to 1/2 hours in the evening. Not counting obedience training. He knows when we tell him to settle in the house he needs to find his bone or chew toy and wait until we can go do something. Im also glad he knows how to crate for emergencies and I cant say my dog has ever had problems with the rare occasions we just cant get him out and about. Except for the time he was unexpedtedly left for 10 hours alone and tore up my sons weight bench.
I guess my point is do as much as you can with your dog, but also teach him to learn to settle and relax for those unexpected times you cant get him out those many hours. He has to learn to work around your schedule and not visa versa.
Find a class that will allow your dog. When we were doing puppy training there was a dog that was leash reactive and he was a little farther away. it took a few classes, maybe 15 ..lol, but soon he was moved up close to us and only had the occasional reaction. I know myself and the others in the class didnt mind the reactive dog, it was good for us to work with the distraction.
02-20-2014 01:04 PM
Galathiel
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Originally Posted by Sookie View Post
I agree with all this.

My puppy's energy level wouldn't even be remotely dented by 2 miles on leash. No amount of anything on leash would tire her out. Four hours off-leash a day, MINIMUM, is what mine needs. This is before any obedience. Obedience is part of off-leash, obviously, but we do separate obedience sessions throughout the day as well. You might be surprised at how well your dog responds to the clicker. I really don't think a puppy of 5 months needs physical corrections, I think they need exercise and play and positive training.

It's great that you have been so flexible with your work schedule - my partner and I had to do this too and I'm amazed when people just crate all day instead of putting in the effort. Sounds like you guys are really willing to make this work, and I commend you for that! Also - there is a light at the end of the tunnel - once my dog hit about a year she became a tiny bit less of a jerk
I'm happy that both of you are able to work your schedule. I'm not sure what effort people that work during the day are NOT doing that they should. Umm, my place of employment is not open nights nor does my husband have control of his schedule. Agree with not enough exercise but I think it's crazy to think that a pup needs 4 hours of exercise a day. I think you're just setting them up to REQUIRE that instead of teaching them to settle in the house instead.
02-20-2014 12:58 PM
wyoung2153 Again, agree with everyone about finding a new trainer. That trainer you are going to now should have a better idea of how to train her and YOU.. than just tell you the breeder shouldn't have sold her to you.

You say she is high energy, working line. I would assume her drive is super high too, how is she with a ball? Or does she have a toy she is NUTS for? I ultimately had to use a ball as Titan's reward for certain things because his drive for toys is much higher than food, hands down.

Everyone has given great advice.. so I won't repeat much. I hope you find something and someone that works for you guys. She's just a high energy puppy, not sure what to do in high distracted situations. Goooood luck!

Keep us posted.
02-20-2014 12:47 PM
Sookie
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Originally Posted by e.rigby View Post
She is just being a puppy. You need to work on engagement with her. This does not mean you need to use aversives in her training... she is only FIVE months old! She is a PUPPY!

If she is flipping out and bounding with excitement when you take her new places, then she does not care about you or want anything you have... that's what working on engagement will fix. You need to make her see that you are more valuable than everything else.

If she's a high drive puppy, build that drive onto a toy or food. Use a flirt pole, set rules. Skip her morning feeding and use super high quality treats (hot dogs, grilled chicken, bacon, etc) for training.

Work inside the house, once she's perfected that, work in the back yard, move to training while on walks, take her different places with the goal of having her do a few training commands, leave on a good note.

It's not really hard, it's just time consuming. Now is the time to do it while she is young and you can still physically manage her!
I agree with all this.

My puppy's energy level wouldn't even be remotely dented by 2 miles on leash. No amount of anything on leash would tire her out. Four hours off-leash a day, MINIMUM, is what mine needs. This is before any obedience. Obedience is part of off-leash, obviously, but we do separate obedience sessions throughout the day as well. You might be surprised at how well your dog responds to the clicker. I really don't think a puppy of 5 months needs physical corrections, I think they need exercise and play and positive training.

It's great that you have been so flexible with your work schedule - my partner and I had to do this too and I'm amazed when people just crate all day instead of putting in the effort. Sounds like you guys are really willing to make this work, and I commend you for that! Also - there is a light at the end of the tunnel - once my dog hit about a year she became a tiny bit less of a jerk
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