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|02-18-2014 12:34 PM|
|Lauri & The Gang||
Originally Posted by lhczth View Post
Talk about Salmonella exposure!!!
They did this day in and day out, for several years and never got sick!
|02-18-2014 12:14 AM|
MRSA, MRSI, MRSE are all normal flora on the skin, on your pets. The issue is if they get involved in a wound somehow, they often cause a lot of trouble. People panic hearing about these due to the few types of antibiotics that you can use against them. They're very strong and only a few things that can get rid of the infection. Which leaves people worried if somehow what few antibiotics that can actually destroy the infection end up getting added into the resistance. It is why you always should do antibiotics properly and to the end. I got some for a suspected tooth abscess on myself a few months ago. Even if it turned out to be just inflammation, I still finished them because I started them. -shrugs-
There is going to be more bacteria in the feces that the dog has, that is a given. There is bacteria on raw foods, on the surfaces of your house, etc. Whether or not it actually is pathogenic is another story. E.Coli is another one of those that can be commonly found in your natural flora. Salmonella is not, but usually their systems are stronger than ours. The big worry honestly about bacteria and raw is the humans handling the stuff on the other end or the stuff beforehand if not using proper techniques. People who do not actually know about raw feeding will usually have the same kind of ideas involved.
And just to say it, it isn't just because vets want to sell you kibble that many of them speak out against raw. It's the same reason that your pet is recommended to be rabies vaccinated and dewormed regularly. They have a part just like human doctors in keeping the general public safe from potential hazards, such as the rabies virus and various parasites that tend to like to crawl under our skin rather than find our intestines as we aren't their normal host species. So just a little food for thought.
|02-17-2014 11:43 PM|
|shilorio||Thank you guys a lot! This really helped me calm down a bunch !|
|02-17-2014 08:39 PM|
If you're truly worried about bacteria feed the raw frozen. By the time the meat would be warm enough for the bacteria to be active it will have already hit the stomach acid and been annihilated anyways.
Also, MRSA isn't really such a big deal in meat. MRSA is a strain of Staph which usually lives on your skin and typically takes advantage when normal fauna (good bacteria) have been eliminated. So unless your dipping your raw in hand sanitizer first, I wouldn't be too concerned over MRSA.
As for ingesting parasites, the biggest worry for me has always been trichinosis which is typically found in pork. Again, freeze the meat before thawing and the lil buggers die. Or, avoid feeding pork products. Obviously keep up with a normal worming regimen and the typical intestinal parasites become a non-issue.
Hope this helps put your mind at ease.
|02-17-2014 08:33 PM|
15 years, many many dogs, weaned 6 litters to raw. My dogs also eat field mice, occasional bunny they catch, animal poop (talk about a direct source for salmonella and e-coli).
Lauri's site : Welcome to the Raw Dog Ranch can be very helpful for people.
|02-17-2014 08:11 PM|
you are way over thinking it. just eye it. you dont need to weigh anything or ask how many pieces. my chicken quarter could be huge compared to yours.
50% mm is like a pound of heart/gizzards.
45% rmb is like 1lb chicken quarter
5% offal is just one or two pieces of whatever you choose as organ meat.
give an egg here and there. give some chicken feet here and there. it doesnt have to be exact every day. humans dont get the exact nutrients every day.
i'd start out slow with liver. its rich and can give the dog diarrhea if given too much.
|02-17-2014 08:00 PM|
Originally Posted by Lauri & The Gang View Post
(Meaning: two chicken legs, one pig heart, ect ect...)
|02-17-2014 07:33 PM|
|Flutter||Unfortunately I don't know the finer details. It would be nice to know them to see if there are any connections. Breeds are all over the place and none have been elderly or young.|
|02-17-2014 04:40 PM|
Originally Posted by Flutter View Post
Some internet sites suggest that feeding dogs expired meat is OK. I would be afraid to feed that, because the longer meat lies around, the more the bacteria in it multiply.
Perhaps these people are getting it from not so great sources. Perhaps they are not storing the meat properly. Who knows?
Because there is so much that can vary, it is tough to figure out why some dogs get salmonella or have problems. Would be great to know.
|02-17-2014 04:26 PM|
|Harry and Lola||
I have been feeding both raw and kibble forever and have had no issues to e.coli, I do give them a pro-biotic which helps the gut stay healthy.
I used to combine the raw and kibble, now for digestion reasons I separate the 2, give kibble in the morning then about 11 to 12 hours later give only raw (usually bit of muscle meat, organ and a small amount of bone).
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