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02-13-2014 04:35 PM
Charlie W
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you'll have to be our "reporter" from New Zealand . What kind of GSD do they have , what opportunities for an owner.
There are some great dogs here, but as it's a small country I think you have to be careful when picking a breeder. I have been lucky as the dog and bitch have European and Australian imports which have been carefully chosen for their working ability, type and temperament. The breeder is concerned with breeding quality dogs and competes in Schutzhund, so she knows her stuff.

As for opportunities, it depends where you are located, which I guess is the same in any country. I live in a fairly remote part of the country, so opportunities for competing are limited. There is a great little dog training club here for obedience and agility, but nothing else. the serious members spend a lot of time and money travelling to other parts of the country to compete. I am not able to do this with work, two teenage children and horses to ride. If I lived somewhere where Schutzhund were an option I'd give it a go, but alas I don't. When I lived in the UK I competed (low level) obedience and loved it, but that was pre-children!

I'd like to do more obedience-wise but finances and time are against me, that said, Norah loves our weekly trip to training and our (almost) daily training sessions in the paddock, so we both still get something positive out of it, and of course the obedience translates into her behaviour the rest of the time too!

Liesje, Mydogs and Shepherdmom, it's good to hear positive stuff about your guy's dogs interacting together.
02-13-2014 04:27 PM
doggiedad i have a friend that had 10 dogs. they bought a box truck so they
could travel with the dogs.




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Originally Posted by FirefighterGSD View Post
Best of luck with the new pup. You're brave, that's a lot of dogs for one house! I don't know how you guys with more than 2 pooches do it!
02-13-2014 04:19 PM
mydogs I have 5 dogs all if them 3 years and younger. Don't restrict the pup playing with other dogs let them work it all out as far as pack order it will all work out. I have 3 males and 2 females. The youngest 5 months is a GSD. The others are a Great Dane , 2 goldens and a lab so yes all big dogs. With a lot of time and patience they have a routine they all get along great. I spend extra one on one with my GSD for training schutzhund. Other than that all is good. Congrats to you!!
02-13-2014 04:12 PM
Liesje I'm more like shepherdmom, I don't really restrict my puppy from my adults, other than some down time in a crate or pen with something to chew on while we all need a little break. I haven't had problems with puppies not bonding with me or not wanting to train and be with me. I train my dogs one-on-one (or when we do flyball, 2 are crated watching while 1 is training and that helps build their drive to come out and have their turns). I take a new puppy all over, like one new place a day for the first few weeks, so he gets lots of exposure and experiences, but at home it's kind of a free-for-all. My dogs need to learn to live together without me micromanaging (I don't like using crates and kennels unless we're actually traveling or at training/competition). My adults are really good at helping a new puppy learn the rules. They set boundaries and communicate in ways only a dog can. I have one other younger dog who plays with my puppy nonstop and if it gets a little crazy I break it up, but usually my adults are ignoring the puppy. I'm actually very thankful I have these other dogs, I think it makes raising the puppy easier not just b/c he has a playmate but the puppy learns from them. Again like I said, I've never had a GSD become too "doggy" because of constant pack interaction (maybe other breeds, I don't know).
02-13-2014 04:06 PM
carmspack you'll have to be our "reporter" from New Zealand . What kind of GSD do they have , what opportunities for an owner.
02-13-2014 04:01 PM
Charlie W Thank you so much, it's funny I consider myself an experienced owner and I am hugely proud of the way my dogs behave. But, this decision has come after many, many months of wondering if we could, should etc and I'm slightly nervous, I just want the three to end up as easy as the two we already have.. I'm hoping that I'm on this forum a year from now, wondering how I ever just had two dogs!
I really do appreciate the advice, it's good to learn from someone else's experiences!
02-13-2014 03:31 PM
shepherdmom
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Shepherdmom: I guess just anything about the dynamics of three to look out for, your experiences, good or bad.. I'm already thinking about an allocated space for the pup to rest, especially of we're not around, as the two big guys could probably do a bit of damage playing with a pup.

The two dogs at the moment have their place in the family sorted, and I'm interested to know how best to introduce a new member. At the moment the dobie, is just big and busy, he listens when he's called, and is happy just to follow his nose. He and the GSD play together lots, but if I call one or other of them, they break away an come, every time, and I'd like this to continue when there are three. I guess one on one training is the key there..I'm waffling, but yes, just anything you wish you'd been told or learned the hard way as your pack increased!
I use a crate for time out for puppy when older ones need a rest and to give him his own safe space.

Introduce one at a time to puppy. I brought out my pack leader first. Then slowly added in the other ones once pack leader accepted him. (someone suggested this to me here on the board it was a wonderful idea)

I don't give a whole lot of one on one training. My new ones learn from my adults. They all have to sit for food and follow house rules. The one on one more comes from socialization when I take puppy out into the world.


I like that they play together and are bonded. Some prefer my husband some prefer me. I don't consider any too "doggie" they all want to be with humans, lol we provide food.

Biggest thing to watch out for is don't let anyone bully anyone else. You are boss. If they get playing to hard I tell them knock it off and make everyone sit and behave. Be careful if you have two females. That can go bad in a hurry once they loose their puppy license. Never two strong willed females together.

Remember puppy is bottom of pack. Never treat him better than other dogs. Older dogs gets food /treat first. Puppy has to wait.

I don't feed near each other. Puppy gets fed in crate until he figures out where his place is. You don't want him stealing adult food or them stealing his.

Make sure high value toys are picked up and puppy has his own toys.

Well that's all I can think of at moment. LOL I'm sure others will chime in as everyone has their own way of doing things.
02-13-2014 02:42 PM
Charlie W Big thing is to make sure take that NEW puppy away from the house and other dogs to train and socialize with the humans in the family. Too easy for it to become 'doggy' otherwise and more connected to the family members with 4 legs rather then 2.

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So being proactive and making playdates, joining puppy classes then dog classes, and just realizing that packing up the pup and driving to somewhere new WITHOUT the other 2 older dogs is key.


Thanks, that makes a lot of sense, I think I'm going to have to take pup out alone and with different combinations of two, as three on leads would be a lot, I weigh less than the combined weight of the two we already have! That said, we are lucky enough to have a couple of acres, and farms / beaches for off-lead excersise, so it' not that often they are on the lead..

I agree also with the idea of socializing the pup separately. We are always slightly amused, but very pleased that anyone who comes onto our propertygets a happy, friendly greeting from the dogs. I don't want that to change, so will put extra effort into getting the pup used to people. I do a bit of obedience with the GSD already, so the pup will do the same.

Shepherdmom: I guess just anything about the dynamics of three to look out for, your experiences, good or bad.. I'm already thinking about an allocated space for the pup to rest, especially of we're not around, as the two big guys could probably do a bit of damage playing with a pup.

The two dogs at the moment have their place in the family sorted, and I'm interested to know how best to introduce a new member. At the moment the dobie, is just big and busy, he listens when he's called, and is happy just to follow his nose. He and the GSD play together lots, but if I call one or other of them, they break away an come, every time, and I'd like this to continue when there are three. I guess one on one training is the key there..I'm waffling, but yes, just anything you wish you'd been told or learned the hard way as your pack increased!
02-13-2014 09:41 AM
shepherdmom
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Can't edit the post now, but any tips from those that have already done three big dogs would be gratefully received!
I have had previously and currently have 5. One is a puppy now though so only 4 are big dogs.

What questions do you have?
02-13-2014 09:15 AM
FirefighterGSD Best of luck with the new pup. You're brave, that's a lot of dogs for one house! I don't know how you guys with more than 2 pooches do it!
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