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04-09-2014 04:07 PM
wyoung2153 OK.. so we had some set backs.. and I need opinions/advice/I don't know.

So twice in the last week we have had guests to the house. On Saturday was guests he knew.. they were old neighbers that we still visit with regularly. So they texted me when they were there.. I put Titan in a down stay in his bed. When they came in he went NUTS. Not aggressive just high pitched excitement. He literally didn't settle for about 20 minutes. I mean literally vocal for 20 solid minutes with like 2 seconds in between to catch his breath.

What did I do you ask? While they were coming in I said "Enough!!" and he quieted for a second. I said good boy.. but he didn't quit. He got sprayed with the water/vinegar mixture and while HATES it, would bark right through it, anticipating the spray. So I stopped that.. it clearly had no effect on him. I went to the ignoring.. which was a little more difficult because they had kids and kept trying to go over there, but eventually, 20 minutes to be exact, Titan quieted and was released and all was good.

Incident 2: Maintenance workers.. SO normally with what work they were going to do.. outside and inside.. I would have just put Titan in a room since they would be in and out and no consistent. except they needed access to all the rooms, so I thought the back yard, as they only needed the front yard. Nope Gardener was supposed to be there so there goes that idea.. so knowing that is is solid on his "stay" I moved his bed to an out of the way area, where he could still see the workers.. and made him stay (leashed him just for sheer "just in case"). I got to the door before the guys were able to ring the doorbell. I told them I have a large dog that will stay where he's at but he will be very vocal in the beginning. I apologize ahead of time, and ask that they please ignore him and he will eventually calm down.

So the bark fest begins. Pretty much the same as the previous guest visit. He didn't move. I had the leash in case but I really didn't need it. I was able to quiet him for a minute with distraction OB and treats but once that ended, he was back to barking and the man walking around the house. They guys went outside, and were working out there. I got this idea, that maybe he would calm down if he was outside with them (on lead of course) while they worked. Went outside with them.. he barked once.. then just watched them, in a down. Then when he noticably relaxed. I took him off lead to play fetch near them.. which I knew would be perfectly fine (when you know your dog you know your dog, so please don't chastise me for doing this, I knew he would be 100% ok) went as I planned and when we went back into the house and the workers came in, he was fine. kept him in a down stay the whole time to not bother them and he was quiet the whole time after that.

Moral of the story.. he's got the "stay" which is awesome. He apparently does much better meeting people outside then walking inside. He acts Bat**** crazy if he is put in bed while people come inside and he has to sit there.. I'm not worried about crating him.. only because his stay is solid, if it weren't for that I would get the crate back out and crate him again... but that would not solve the vocals issue.. I mean is it farfetched to think maybe he would do better greeting with leash at the door first thing? I have never done that. It honestly doesn't bother me that he barks.. what bothers me is he doesn't listen to the "enough" this is literally the only time he ignores that command.. I'm serious. He knows it too, he stops for a second every time and then goes back at it. It's embarrassing and nerve racking when I have guests over and he does this. Like I have this crazy, out of control animal..
02-17-2014 07:54 PM
wyoung2153 Yes! It was exciting to see the progress. Granted I know he won't always be perfect while training but it's comforting to see his potential

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02-17-2014 07:25 PM
Blanketback Way to go Titan, and even more importantly - way to go Whitney! Good for you for finding something that works, something that your dog can understand. Yay! There's nothing better than a dog that barks and also knows how to be quiet
02-17-2014 07:04 PM
wyoung2153
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Originally Posted by 3dognite View Post
I have had the same trouble with Odin...obsessive, frantic barking. Good luck.
It's interesting though because titan is just so excited. As soon as he meets everyone.. he's quiet as a mouse. I just need him to quiet before introductions. Lol.

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02-17-2014 06:59 PM
3dognite I have had the same trouble with Odin...obsessive, frantic barking. Good luck.
02-17-2014 06:53 PM
wyoung2153 Ooooh K! Progress has been made! We used a combination of the spray bottle and keeping him in his bed. When the doorbell rang (unexpectedly) I said "enough" and told Titan to go to bed.. Which he did.. yipping the whole way. Then when he kept barking (excitedly) I told him "enough" then sprayed him (99% water, a splash of vinegar) and after two sprays and an "enough" each time, he stopped and got treats. He then sat quietly and then was allowed out of bed. The first time, he barked the minute I said "ok" so I put him back in bed and he was quiet. I gave him a treat, and said "ok."

The second time someone came to the door (rare we get back to back visitors, lol) he ran to the door barking. I said "enough" and go to bed. This time he didn't go to bed right away, so I walked him over there. BUT he didn't bark as much. He did a few each one with an enough and a spray and he quieted. Then he got treated and released.

Now if I can keep this up I think we will have some great progress! Thank you guys for all the advice!
02-13-2014 10:21 AM
Blanketback Doggiedad, lol - that is training. It's an aversive, or +P. Not one that you or I would choose to do, but this is what the trainer suggested. How did you get your dog to stopping the endless barking?
02-13-2014 10:07 AM
wyoung2153
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Originally Posted by Blanketback View Post
Does Titan get vocal when it's time to play outside? Mine does, so I'm using this as an exercise to teach him to control his barking. Besides him knowing what "Quiet" means, lol.
Oddly enough, not really. He will if I withhold the toy for some time and tease him with it. Then I tell him "shhh" and he's so good at it. he doesn't even get into a barking frenzy except for what I've talked about here.

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Originally Posted by doggiedad View Post
invite lots of people to visit so you can work on the barking.
how about spraying your dog with water instead of vinegar.
i wouldn't spray my dog. i would train/socialize to stop the
barking.
That was my first thought too.. the not using a spray. Plus I really feel like he will just want to play with it.. though that would stop the barking, lol. Might not be so bad I am definitely going to be taking some advice from everyone here.

I think I decided last night, that the only time I REALLY want him to hush, is when guest are IN the house I don't mind so much if he barks when it's a random person coming to the door, so I will just have to have people over like you said. So he will then know.. when mom invites the person in, I have to be quiet.
02-13-2014 10:02 AM
doggiedad invite lots of people to visit so you can work on the barking.
how about spraying your dog with water instead of vinegar.
i wouldn't spray my dog. i would train/socialize to stop the
barking.
02-13-2014 09:54 AM
Blanketback Does Titan get vocal when it's time to play outside? Mine does, so I'm using this as an exercise to teach him to control his barking. Besides him knowing what "Quiet" means, lol.
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