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01-27-2014 02:59 PM
Liesje You may not be able to apply yet. For our flyball club, we don't accept new people until they have already demonstrated commitment. There is no formal application process. The current club members decide to "invite" a new person to become a full member after they have been training and attended events.

I would contact whoever is the contact person and ask if you can attend an upcoming meeting, get the date and time. I would not just show up. Some clubs do certain business at some meetings and it would not be a good time for a new person to be hanging out. They might have a meeting or event that would be more interesting/valuable.

If you plan to join multiple clubs, you have to also consider how this might "look". Like what Chris said about the breed thing, and....well in some locales, it matters what clubs you are in or not. You don't just haphazardly join them all. There might be more than one club for a sport or a breed and you'd want to make an informed choice. I am purposely NOT currently part of our local breed club. I know several people who are and they have been trying to recruit me because they want to move the club in the direction of training and sports/work, not just AKC conformation specialty. They know I am a member of other training/sports clubs and want my input. I attended a meeting and gave them contacts for various clubs, invited people to watch or even bring a dog along if they wanted to try. To date I have had zero people take me up on these invitations so I have said I will consider joining the breed club and helping them networking with sport/performance people *when* they start demonstrating to me that they are actually committed to other venues besides AKC specialty. Otherwise it is a waste of my time and it looks weird for me to be spending time and money that I could be putting towards more training and competition for my dogs on a club that only seems to promote AKC specialty dogs/events.
01-27-2014 02:39 PM
Lobobear44
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Originally Posted by Liesje View Post
Participate in weekly meetings/training, volunteer to help when hosting events, pay monthly dues, enter your dogs in events hosted by the club....

For flyball we usually train once a week for about 3 hours. When the weather is nice, we also get together at each others' houses once a week to do box work with the young dogs. I pay each time we train AND pay quarterly dues. We commit to traveling to a tournament about once a month and this usually involves a 2.5 hour drive each way unless it's out of state, then anywhere from 5-9 hours each way. That includes being in a hotel all weekend.

When I was a full member of a Schutzhund club, I drove 2.5 hours one way for training once a week and it was often 6 hours. There was a yearly fee and then monthly dues. I also committed to helping with one of the two trials (the spring trial is always the same weekend as our closest flyball tournament), bringing food, buying raffle items, and doing the trial photography.

With most clubs, you can't just attend and be a fly on the wall. You need to be an active participant both with your dogs and volunteering your time and skills.
Then this could be a once a month thing. I could talk to them about my commute. Could do once a month or find another way of tranportation. There is another one coming up I am considering taking the train too. So I filled out the application. Should I take it with me to the next show and give it to them or what? One of the Akita people did say that I think and something about sponsor. There was so much noise and distractions at the dog show kind of hard to tell what people really said.
01-27-2014 02:21 PM
Liesje
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@Liesje

Wait what do you mean commitment for these clubs? How much commitment do you have to put in? I would be very committed though seriously. The only problem is I have a longer commute than I think most of them.
Participate in weekly meetings/training, volunteer to help when hosting events, pay monthly dues, enter your dogs in events hosted by the club....

For flyball we usually train once a week for about 3 hours. When the weather is nice, we also get together at each others' houses once a week to do box work with the young dogs. I pay each time we train AND pay quarterly dues. We commit to traveling to a tournament about once a month and this usually involves a 2.5 hour drive each way unless it's out of state, then anywhere from 5-9 hours each way. That includes being in a hotel all weekend.

When I was a full member of a Schutzhund club, I drove 2.5 hours one way for training once a week and it was often 6 hours. There was a yearly fee and then monthly dues. I also committed to helping with one of the two trials (the spring trial is always the same weekend as our closest flyball tournament), bringing food, buying raffle items, and doing the trial photography.

With most clubs, you can't just attend and be a fly on the wall. You need to be an active participant both with your dogs and volunteering your time and skills.
01-27-2014 02:01 PM
martemchik
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@Liesje

Wait what do you mean commitment for these clubs? How much commitment do you have to put in? I would be very committed though seriously. The only problem is I have a longer commute than I think most of them.
Training clubs generally meet/train on either a Saturday or a Sunday. More than likely its a Sunday, which is why its very difficult to be part of more than one at a time. Commitment is usually volunteering at shows or trials...which are on weekends and also make it difficult to go to your other clubs if you are in others.

I'm treasurer of my regional GSD club...I train there and instruct a class. I also have to go to board and general membership meetings. In total...I spend probably 4-5 hours a week dealing with club stuff or am there training.
01-27-2014 01:55 PM
Freestep
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The Akita and Anatolian are not dogs I would recommend you get started with if the goal is to interact with them.
Agreed. Akitas, Anatolians, Collies, and GSDs are all very different and disparate breeds. You need to focus on the breed(s) you are truly interested in owning someday. Don't take a shotgun approach to joining clubs. You will learn and retain more knowledge if you focus on one or two at a time.
01-27-2014 01:52 PM
Lobobear44
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Also keep in mind that every club will have dues/fee schedule. I'd be in more clubs than I am now if they didn't all have a dollar amount and time commitment! You will have to choose wisely.
@Liesje

Wait what do you mean commitment for these clubs? How much commitment do you have to put in? I would be very committed though seriously. The only problem is I have a longer commute than I think most of them.
01-27-2014 01:50 PM
Lobobear44
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As others have said, most clubs have certain criteria for membership that involves more than just filling out a form and joining.

Also, breed clubs and training clubs are different. Training clubs are for people who want to train dogs and learn to train dogs. In most cases, this requires having a dog to train, though some will often let people join and start attending as auditors if the person doesn't have a dog yet. Though the assumption there is usually that the person will be getting a dog in the foreseable future. Breed clubs are about learning about that specific breed. Some don't do anything other than sit around and talk about the breed, some are very involved with training, conformation showing, etc... In both cases, breed clubs are designed for people who are passionate about that specific breed. Not just dogs in general. And I think they are going to consider it quite odd if someone is wanting to join multiple breed clubs. They're going to sort of expect you to pick *your* breed and then maybe join it's club. Not join a bunch of different breed clubs for entirely different breeds.

Either way, giving where you are at now in your life, you will get more out of volunteering and training than out of any of the other things that the clubs have to offer so the shelter is likely going to be much more educational and the Collie person probably realized that, plus probably also realized you weren't head over heels in love with Collies specifically, so there really is no reason to join a club for that specific breed. She may have even seen you signing up for other clubs too, which to her would make absolutely no sense and indicate you don't really know what you want at this point.
I love all sorts of breeds and I would've liked to get to experience a lot of different breeds other than just German shepherds and Nordic breeds.
01-27-2014 01:43 PM
Liesje Also keep in mind that every club will have dues/fee schedule. I'd be in more clubs than I am now if they didn't all have a dollar amount and time commitment! You will have to choose wisely.
01-27-2014 12:13 PM
Chris Wild As others have said, most clubs have certain criteria for membership that involves more than just filling out a form and joining.

Also, breed clubs and training clubs are different. Training clubs are for people who want to train dogs and learn to train dogs. In most cases, this requires having a dog to train, though some will often let people join and start attending as auditors if the person doesn't have a dog yet. Though the assumption there is usually that the person will be getting a dog in the foreseable future. Breed clubs are about learning about that specific breed. Some don't do anything other than sit around and talk about the breed, some are very involved with training, conformation showing, etc... In both cases, breed clubs are designed for people who are passionate about that specific breed. Not just dogs in general. And I think they are going to consider it quite odd if someone is wanting to join multiple breed clubs. They're going to sort of expect you to pick *your* breed and then maybe join it's club. Not join a bunch of different breed clubs for entirely different breeds.

Either way, giving where you are at now in your life, you will get more out of volunteering and training than out of any of the other things that the clubs have to offer so the shelter is likely going to be much more educational and the Collie person probably realized that, plus probably also realized you weren't head over heels in love with Collies specifically, so there really is no reason to join a club for that specific breed. She may have even seen you signing up for other clubs too, which to her would make absolutely no sense and indicate you don't really know what you want at this point.
01-27-2014 12:09 PM
marbury Apologies to OP. Good luck with your club search.


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