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01-28-2014 04:18 PM
Lobobear44
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Originally Posted by martemchik View Post
I'm surprised at the owner...what kind of show was this? Conformation? Obedience?

Most people trialing in obedience don't allow any contact with their dogs before a show...dog needs to concentrate and not get distracted. I'll allow some people to say hello, pet him on the head, but I would never allow any sort of extended interaction like that...plus my dog doesn't really want people touching him in the first place.

I'm really not sure how any of this is "humanizing" either...if you're humanizing, you should treat a dog like a human. My 3 year old dog should therefore be considered a 20 something year old human, and you wouldn't come up to me and start petting me would you?

This is a mistake by both people...OP and the handler. Neither one can read a dog properly and thought the dog was having fun. Anyone ever see a Schutzhund dog bite a sleeve and wag its tail like it was the greatest thing in the world? But tail wagging means the dog is friendly and fun right? The dog put its paw on OP...that's a dominance thing. OP probably brushed it off and the dog got pissed. Dog was trying to dominate OP and OP was okay with it and for some reason the handler was as well...

Was this an AKC show? I'd be shocked if this animal was ever allowed at an AKC show again if the damage was as bad as OP describes...
Was an AKC show but don't spread it around say a beach. Already been reported. I don't remember what happened completely. Didn't even feel his fangs didn't know he bit me until I noticed blood.
01-28-2014 04:11 PM
Liesje I agree this is not "humanizing" a dog. I'm a human and if a stranger came over and started petting me I'd go ninja on him! I'd say it's more like an unhealthy infatuation. Dogs need to be treated with respect, both for how they think/feel and for their own personal space. My dog is not a teddy bear for cuddling; he's a strong, courageous, loyal, mature animal that has years of training both mentally and physically. As his owner and handler I still respect his space and give him peace when he needs it.
01-28-2014 01:09 PM
Saphire Lobo.....

This is not entirely your fault. You are young and have so much to learn. I have hope for you now that you no longer believe you know everything. Now you can grow.

1. The owner/handler should never have allowed you to attempt so much close smothering type affection.

2. You need to stop interacting with dogs in this way. It is not productive and will do nothing to help you achieve your goal as a trainer.

3. This is not humanizing and the fact you keep suggesting it is, tells me you still do not understand the term. Slow down......start at the beginning..take your time. Find a good trainer willing to mentor you.

Humanizing is when you thought it was gross for a dog to breed with ie. their mother, sister etc. You felt they should know better. That imo is humanizing.
01-28-2014 12:52 PM
martemchik I'm surprised at the owner...what kind of show was this? Conformation? Obedience?

Most people trialing in obedience don't allow any contact with their dogs before a show...dog needs to concentrate and not get distracted. I'll allow some people to say hello, pet him on the head, but I would never allow any sort of extended interaction like that...plus my dog doesn't really want people touching him in the first place.

I'm really not sure how any of this is "humanizing" either...if you're humanizing, you should treat a dog like a human. My 3 year old dog should therefore be considered a 20 something year old human, and you wouldn't come up to me and start petting me would you?

This is a mistake by both people...OP and the handler. Neither one can read a dog properly and thought the dog was having fun. Anyone ever see a Schutzhund dog bite a sleeve and wag its tail like it was the greatest thing in the world? But tail wagging means the dog is friendly and fun right? The dog put its paw on OP...that's a dominance thing. OP probably brushed it off and the dog got pissed. Dog was trying to dominate OP and OP was okay with it and for some reason the handler was as well...

Was this an AKC show? I'd be shocked if this animal was ever allowed at an AKC show again if the damage was as bad as OP describes...
01-28-2014 11:17 AM
Freestep
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Originally Posted by Lobobear44 View Post
I wonder what else I'm ignorant about the ignorant lists doesn't end.
Believe me, you will find out one way or another! It's a lifelong learning curve.

It's in your own best interest to assume you DON'T know everything. Listen to those who have more knowledge and experience than you do, and soak up as much as you can. Sometimes you can learn through other people's mistakes so that you don't have to suffer the consequences yourself.
01-28-2014 11:15 AM
Jax08 What exactly did you do that "took it too far"?
01-28-2014 11:15 AM
Blanketback
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Originally Posted by Lobobear44 View Post
Learned not to do that to any stranger dog not even other people's dogs I walk.
That's the main thing, to learn from your mistakes.
01-28-2014 11:11 AM
Lobobear44
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Originally Posted by LoveEcho View Post
You didn't pay the "ultimate price", the ultimate price would be the dog being euth'd.

And you didn't learn your lesson here, because you said THAT dog "seemed" like he wanted to cuddle. Bottom line: don't cuddle dogs that are not your own, EVER. Not only is it not appropriate socially (to the dog or the owner) or professionally, there's a BIG leap between a dog being happy about being pet and a dog who will tolerate such an invasion of personal space. You're not humanizing these dogs- a person you just met, while they might want to talk to you, is not going to like you hugging them and hanging on them.




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Yeah if I didn't get carried away then the bite wouldn't have happened. Then i couldve had a healthy relationship with th Doberman. The dog was crawling all over me on the bench licking my face putting a paw on me getting into my space. Then I took it too far. Won't do this again at a dog show or to any dog unless my own dogs.
01-28-2014 05:59 AM
LoveEcho
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Originally Posted by Lobobear44 View Post
This is the second time I paid the ultimate price.


Unless the dog seems like he/she wants to be cuddled up.
You didn't pay the "ultimate price", the ultimate price would be the dog being euth'd.

And you didn't learn your lesson here, because you said THAT dog "seemed" like he wanted to cuddle. Bottom line: don't cuddle dogs that are not your own, EVER. Not only is it not appropriate socially (to the dog or the owner) or professionally, there's a BIG leap between a dog being happy about being pet and a dog who will tolerate such an invasion of personal space. You're not humanizing these dogs- a person you just met, while they might want to talk to you, is not going to like you hugging them and hanging on them.




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01-28-2014 01:39 AM
mego
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Originally Posted by Lobobear44 View Post
Unless the dog seems like he/she wants to be cuddled up.
Honestly the safer bet here is just to stick to this rule: only cuddle your own dogs (if your dogs like to cuddle).
Because "seems like" is dangerous. One misinterpretation and you could be in serious trouble.
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