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01-28-2014 02:19 PM
wyoung2153 Scheduled a one on one with a really awesome trainer in 2 weeks (booked til then for my schedule) until then I am retruning to the basics for the time being. We are not going to SAR this weekend and will instead do some nose work at the house and OB in the yard.
01-27-2014 07:16 AM
wyoung2153
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Make sure you test thyroid.......
That was in the blood panel last week and she said it was fine.. I think she did liver and kidneys too. But I'll ask her what more she tested for and see what she thinks of what happened.

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01-27-2014 07:07 AM
jocoyn Make sure you test thyroid.......
01-27-2014 07:02 AM
wyoung2153 Oh that is definitely being looked into. I am going to call my vet today. My team lead thinks that is due to the health issues too only because he's been wiring with us for 2 years and has never seen him act that way.

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01-27-2014 04:15 AM
OriginalWacky I'm somewhat surprised that more folks here aren't mentioning that you really need to get him in for more tests, as it's fairly obvious there is *something* going on with him (based on your other thread). Now might be a good time to stop with all the training and extra stuff and focus on basics at home with him, just going over and polishing up the things he already knows well.
01-26-2014 09:09 PM
wyoung2153 Also, I am contacting a few trainers tomorrow. Ideally I will go to the one I really want to, but it is an hour and a half away so I am looking at closer ones just to see if there's someone local who is worth a dime.
01-26-2014 09:08 PM
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I don't do anything with my guy but he's civil in public. Your doggie has a job and that's all he should care about. Service dogs don't have to "like" people in order to do there jobs (well obviously Therapy dogs, like people! ) they just have to be civil. That's what I taught my guy to do he sees people as lawn furniture on a walk seldom any interaction. And he's fine with people when he does meet them.

But the change at the two year mark, maturity, I experianced that myself and I had "issues" to deal with at that time that I had not seen before. You raised one dog for two years and suddenly somebody new shows up?? Out of the dogs I've raised my GSD is the only one I have seen this happen with.
I was actually curious if there was something about the 4 year mark. I didn't quite have the big change at 2 but gooooodness the closer he got to 4 and here after, has been such a little butthead! I mean solid OB then bam, trash cans, not listening, tugging on leash, counter surfing, etc. All manageable and all have been addressed but I had been meaning to bring up whether there is a terrible 4 stage, lol.

I agree whole heartedly now that this has happened, hing sight being 20/20 that he needs to not interact with people out side of my intro and that is something I want to work with him on now. Never too late..

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Your dog is a full adult now correct? not an adolescent?
I'm wondering if its health issues too. Is he on a medication?
I know my dog acts aggressive if she's not feeling well and when she was on prednisone.

If nothing else, I agree with llombaro's post about underlying creepiness. Our dog lunged at this guy on the beach a couple months ago. We call him the naked guy, he's was staring at us too long showing off his body. Molly did not like it at all!! And neither did we. My daughter says, "always trust your German Shepherd", so I think its either medical or something off with the guy.
He is an adult and we have had some recent health concerns so that is always a possibility. he doesn't take medication outside the antibiotics or occasionally a steroid if his allergies kick up.

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I wonder why a random dude was walking across the field and why he was so okay with being nipped. There was probably something off about him. But yeah, i'd treat that situation as an eye opener.

There's only been one person I met on a walk that my dog absolutely hated. She refused to let him pet her and gave some of the most vicious barks I've heard out of her every time he stepped towards us. He had three gsds in his backyard, talked about training for a few minues, he was talking about how yelling and being 'mean' was a terrible way to train and how he liked to be so sweet to his dogs, later that night I walked by his house and heard him screaming at his dogs..I could hear it from the sidewalk. Something was weird about him. The dog knew
The more I think about it (which is a lot, lol) the more I know that it wasn't so much aggression as it was protection. He has met far to many people off leash, and while I am definitely going to change the way he interacts with people now, he has NEVER jumped up to nip someone or aggressively rushed them. The lady a few weeks ago, he still had a playful demeanor with a slight aggressive undertone (tail wagging, no hackles raised) and when he got to her, he just sniffed and grabbed a ball for her to throw. Though the undertone was enough for me to decide to work on that.. he still hasn't done what he did that day to that man.

To explain the man walking in an open field, between the parking area and the woods with all the trails to hike around, is the open field. . Wearing sweats and a T-shirt and tennis shoes, I would only assume he was going to jog or walk the trails. Couldn't tell you why he was so calm. He was VERY calm for that situation. I mean when he said "he bit me" it was in a matter of fact tone.. no worries or scared inflection.. just matter of fact. Then didn't even stay for me to talk to him while Titan was held by my back up. Offered multiple times to have him talk to our lead and he just said he was fine, didn't break skin and kept walking away. Just odd.. but not excusable to Titan though I am almost certain he was in protection mode vs down right aggression.

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With this method of training mentioned by me below your recall should work perfectly, but you also can polish your recall. Thus your dog gets used to, that, if there is no command - he mustn't run after the stranger and ignore him. But don't stop him barking, he should bark - that is exactly what you want, isn't it?
That is definitely something that I will look into.. I don't want the barking to stop. I want him to alert me and then let me make the decision of what to do next. "Enough" should be the end all and "Check it out" would encourage an investigation. But that's just not how he works with his alerting. Even in our home it's something we struggle with. The ONLY time he barks in the home is when someone comes over. He barks his brains out, I tell him to go to bed, he does, I tell him to wait, he does, meanwhile barking his head off. It's like that for about 20 minutes until he settles then he can come greet the guest. After the greeting.. he ignores them and goes about his business.. I never give him range to greet the guest up front. I keep him in his bed/crate until he is calm then let him. This has gone on for years and I cannot for the life of me figure out how to fix it.. I have tried many things.
01-26-2014 03:02 AM
David Taggart With this method of training mentioned by me below your recall should work perfectly, but you also can polish your recall. Thus your dog gets used to, that, if there is no command - he mustn't run after the stranger and ignore him. But don't stop him barking, he should bark - that is exactly what you want, isn't it?
01-26-2014 02:48 AM
David Taggart Another thing you can do - to train running after people in order to detect their smell. It is important that your dog doesn't confront them, but run after keeping some distance.
You will see, that he will stop barking if you do everything rather slowly at the beginning.Your dog should be off leash. If you saw a jogger (joggers are the best to start with, but choose a slow runner to train your dog) and your dog barks (he barks, because heis not sure how to investigate) ask him "heel" and start to move towards that running person slowly, allowing him to pass you. Only the runner is some distance away from you - start jogging yourself with your dog at your heel after him. Keep 10 feet distance between yourself and the runner and run after him for some time. You should see how your dog raises his head to detect that joggers smell trailing after him. 5 minutes of jogging should be enough. Turn 180 degree abruptly with your dog heeling and return exactly to the spot where you started. When you started to see, that your dog understands the procedure, you can send him after a jogger. A strong stink of sweat of a healthhy body is not what he is looking for, he would start running after people not for so long first, then would learn himself, that he has no need to do so in order to detect the smell of a moving object at all. It depends how sharp the sense of smell your dog has. Take care of his nose, exposure to car gases if too often damage his sensory organ.
01-26-2014 12:29 AM
mego I wonder why a random dude was walking across the field and why he was so okay with being nipped. There was probably something off about him. But yeah, i'd treat that situation as an eye opener.

There's only been one person I met on a walk that my dog absolutely hated. She refused to let him pet her and gave some of the most vicious barks I've heard out of her every time he stepped towards us. He had three gsds in his backyard, talked about training for a few minues, he was talking about how yelling and being 'mean' was a terrible way to train and how he liked to be so sweet to his dogs, later that night I walked by his house and heard him screaming at his dogs..I could hear it from the sidewalk. Something was weird about him. The dog knew
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