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03-14-2014 01:16 AM
sarahbunga
Same here!

We are finding the same thing happening to our 3 month old pup, Chewie. We asked our vet about it and she said it was normal puppy behavior for at least the first 6 months or so. However, she did say that we should start discouraging the behavior so that it does not go beyond our own backyard. One of the things she suggested was to take them out on the leash, let them poop and immediately distract them with a treat once they are finished their business. If they do not come to you immediately after finishing, you can pull them gently with the leash away from their stool and give them their treat while praising them. We're finding it's taking some time to work, but we are definitely noticing some improvement. Hopefully that will help you out!
02-14-2014 07:55 AM
sehrgutcsg
Quote:
Originally Posted by Momto2GSDs View Post
Here are some thoughts I posted on another thread a couple of weeks ago:

Per PetMD: "For some dogs, eating feces is a behavior learned from the litter-mates and/or mother. But, dogs that are fed a low-quality food (or an insufficient amount of food) may also resort to eating feces in an instinctual attempt to balance out a dietary deficiency. This may be further exacerbated if your dog has a digestive enzyme deficiency, because it prevents any of the food’s nutrients to be properly absorbed by the body. Basically, your dog is attempting to eat feces in the hopes to forgo starving to death."

Dr. Karen Becker: "Dogs on entirely processed, dry food diets, who eat no living foods at all, will intentionally seek out other sources of digestive enzymes to make up for their own lifelong enzyme deficiency. Feeding your pet a diet containing human-grade protein, probiotics and supplemental digestive enzymes can sometimes curb the urge to find gross sources of free enzymes around the yard or in the cats litter box."

Coprophagia can also be caused by a Vitamin-B1 (Thiamine) deficiency. “B-1 deficiency can be caused by feeding your dog a low-quality or a nutritionally incomplete diet (Dogspire).”
Vitamin Code Raw B Complex: RAW ORGANIC FRUIT AND VEGETABLE BLEND(ORGANIC:STRAWBERRY,CHERRY,BLACKBERRY, RASPBERRY,BEET JUICE,BROCCOLI,CUCUMBER,TOMATO,KALE,SPINACH,CABBAG E,CAULIFLOWER,CELERY,PARSLEY,ASPARAGUS,GINGER) Amazon.com: Garden of Life Vitamin Code Raw B-Complex Capsules, 120 Count: Health & Personal Care


The dog may need some Vitamin K-1. You can supply this naturally to her diet by adding 1 Tablespoon of chopped parsley every other day (never use synthetic Vitamin K-3, also called Menadione Sodium Bisulfate, as prolonged use can possibly damage organs and have a carcinogenic effect). Additionally, “the flavonoids in parsley—especially luteolin—have been shown to function as antioxidants that combine with highly reactive oxygen-containing molecules (called oxygen radicals) and help prevent oxygen-based damage to cells. In addition, extracts from parsley have been used in animal studies to help increase the antioxidant capacity of the blood.”

Adding animal based enzymes and fresh foods that contain Vitamin B-1 (Thiamine) could curb this habit. BileX is an animal based digestive enzyme and very cost effective. It contains Pancreatin, Ox Bile Extract and Papin (Papaya). Crush 1 or 1 ½ tablets between 2 spoons and mix into the dogs food. Bilex 90 Tablets by Douglas Laboratories Pro-Biotics also aides the gut: For Pets Probiotic Pet Probiotics | Optimal Digestive Health for Pets - Mercola.com

Another Digestive Enzyme/ProBiotic choice is called Sunday Sundae: Sunday Sundae Nutritional Supplement

Here are some fresh foods that you can add to your dogs’ diet.
*Pork is high in B-1. 1/3rd cup served raw several times per week may help. Pork must be frozen for at least one week before it is given to your dog. Choose very lean pork such as diced “taco meat” without any seasonings added or purchase pork chops on sale, take off most of the fat and cut in smaller pieces before freezing. Introduce slowly in small amounts at first.
*Liver from Beef, Pork, and Chicken contain Thiamine.
*Asparagus (pureed), green peas (pureed), ground flax seed and tuna (cooked) also have high quantities of B-1 that can be added to the diet.

If you look for a commercially prepared “stool deterrent” make sure that it doesn't contain MSG (Mono-sodium Glutamate) which can be toxic. Please research MSG (Accent) before purchasing as it is VERY suspect of being a dangerous toxin:
Per Wiki: MSG is classified by the FDA as an excitotoxin, a dangerous neurotoxin that shrivels and kills brain cells and has been linked to causing seizures, migraines, heart palpitations and even cancer, amongst it's many symptoms.... in people! Never mind your dog, YOU should be avoiding MSG! It's definitely one of those things you should not feed a dog.
http://evidenceofmsgtoxicity.blogspot.com/: All processed free glutamic acid (MSG) – no matter how produced -- is neurotoxic (kills brain cells) and is endocrine disrupting (damages the endocrine system) (7-8). In addition, all processed free glutamic acid (MSG) will cause adverse reactions ranging from feelings of mild discomfort or simple skin rash to such things as irritable bowel, asthma, migraine headache, mood swings, heart irregularities, asthma, seizures, and depression when the amount of MSG ingested exceeds a person's MSG-tolerance level(9).
http://thehydrantblog.com/2012/07/31/dog-food-and-the-hidden-msg/ MSG or glutamate is a suspected addictive neurotoxin that has been associated with chest pain, headaches, numbness, asthmatic reactions, brain damage (in rats, rabbits, chicks and monkeys), depression, irritability, and mood changes, reproductive dysfunction in males and females, nervous symptoms (decreased sensibility in neck, arms and back) and irregular heartbeat. It’s also on the FDA’s list for further study for possible mutagenic teratogenic, subacute and reproductive effects.


Here is a natural deterrent: Only Natural Pet Stool Eating Deterrent Dog Supplement



If considering changing foods, I would suggest high quality food such as The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food www.thehonestkitchen.com , or Acana Grain Free www.acana.com or Fromm's Four Star Grain Free Four-Star Gourmet Recipes for dogs - Fromm Family Foods


Hope you find something that works for your dog!
Moms

I THINK IN THE SHORT TIME I HAVE BEEN HERE... THIS IS THE BEST POST TO DATE.

If I remember correctly eating stools has something to do with re-protien, digestive..?? Not certain, but I found something I wish to share and EVERYBODY should at least do some due diligence and see if this is for them and their dogs.. I don't know about other animals. My vet carries these business cards in his pocket and this mean's he swears by it...

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You will need to Google: 1/4 teaspoon per meal X 3 for my puppy.

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60 million year old clay from a volcano near Death Valley, ground into powder.

I hope some people at least check it out.

This pup is wearing me down, I am lucky their's three of us..
02-14-2014 07:16 AM
JanaeUlva I also don't want to add commercial stuff to my puppies food. After ruling out any vitamin deficiency (I feed a high quality food and the puppy has normal poops) I have found that if I wait for the pup to poop, then call him and scatter kibble on the ground they will pay attention to the food while I pick up the poop. I almost feel like hawking over the puppy waiting for it to poop so I can scoop it up before they eat it just creates more interest in the poop. The redirect to kibble way you create the habit of coming to see you after they poop and break the cycle of eating it that in itself can become habit. And yea, I live in Wisconsin so it's cold and snowy but I get out there anyhow
02-14-2014 06:49 AM
sourdough44 This is front & center with our 11 week pup, poop eating. I don't have faith in the commercial products ment to be mixed with food. Our breeder says it is very normal with puppies, I wasn't clear on if and when they would grow out of it.

We have been putting hot sauce in the poop with good results, upper temp but not dangerous level of hot. It's 'habenaro' sauce from Wal-mart. If not hot enough it's like putting catchup on it. I may try the lemon juice.

I cover it right after she is done, one small taste and she leaves it alone. I realize this isn't practical long term, trying to train her off. I don't think her diet is 'deficient'. Anyway, still working on this one.
01-24-2014 06:27 PM
lunardash12
i kmow just the trick

put some hot sause or lemon juice on her poop soon they will know dont eat
01-24-2014 06:17 PM
Momto2GSDs Here are some thoughts I posted on another thread a couple of weeks ago:

Per PetMD: "For some dogs, eating feces is a behavior learned from the litter-mates and/or mother. But, dogs that are fed a low-quality food (or an insufficient amount of food) may also resort to eating feces in an instinctual attempt to balance out a dietary deficiency. This may be further exacerbated if your dog has a digestive enzyme deficiency, because it prevents any of the food’s nutrients to be properly absorbed by the body. Basically, your dog is attempting to eat feces in the hopes to forgo starving to death."

Dr. Karen Becker: "Dogs on entirely processed, dry food diets, who eat no living foods at all, will intentionally seek out other sources of digestive enzymes to make up for their own lifelong enzyme deficiency. Feeding your pet a diet containing human-grade protein, probiotics and supplemental digestive enzymes can sometimes curb the urge to find gross sources of free enzymes around the yard or in the cats litter box."

Coprophagia can also be caused by a Vitamin-B1 (Thiamine) deficiency. “B-1 deficiency can be caused by feeding your dog a low-quality or a nutritionally incomplete diet (Dogspire).”

Vitamin Code Raw B Complex: RAW ORGANIC FRUIT AND VEGETABLE BLEND(ORGANIC:STRAWBERRY,CHERRY,BLACKBERRY, RASPBERRY,BEET JUICE,BROCCOLI,CUCUMBER,TOMATO,KALE,SPINACH,CABBAG E,CAULIFLOWER,CELERY,PARSLEY,ASPARAGUS,GINGER)
Amazon Amazon


The dog may need some Vitamin K-1. You can supply this naturally to her diet by adding 1 Tablespoon of chopped parsley every other day (never use synthetic Vitamin K-3, also called Menadione Sodium Bisulfate, as prolonged use can possibly damage organs and have a carcinogenic effect). Additionally, “the flavonoids in parsley—especially luteolin—have been shown to function as antioxidants that combine with highly reactive oxygen-containing molecules (called oxygen radicals) and help prevent oxygen-based damage to cells. In addition, extracts from parsley have been used in animal studies to help increase the antioxidant capacity of the blood.”

Adding animal based enzymes and fresh foods that contain Vitamin B-1 (Thiamine) could curb this habit. BileX is an animal based digestive enzyme and very cost effective. It contains Pancreatin, Ox Bile Extract and Papin (Papaya). Crush 1 or 1 ½ tablets between 2 spoons and mix into the dogs food. Bilex 90 Tablets by Douglas Laboratories Pro-Biotics also aides the gut: For Pets Probiotic Pet Probiotics | Optimal Digestive Health for Pets - Mercola.com


Another Digestive Enzyme/ProBiotic choice is called Sunday Sundae: Sunday Sundae Nutritional Supplement

Here are some fresh foods that you can add to your dogs’ diet.
*Pork is high in B-1. 1/3rd cup served raw several times per week may help. Pork must be frozen for at least one week before it is given to your dog. Choose very lean pork such as diced “taco meat” without any seasonings added or purchase pork chops on sale, take off most of the fat and cut in smaller pieces before freezing. Introduce slowly in small amounts at first.
*Liver from Beef, Pork, and Chicken contain Thiamine.

*Asparagus (pureed), green peas (pureed), ground flax seed and tuna (cooked) also have high quantities of B-1 that can be added to the diet.

If you look for a commercially prepared “stool deterrent” make sure that it doesn't contain MSG (Mono-sodium Glutamate) which can be toxic.
Please research MSG (Accent) before purchasing as it is VERY suspect of being a dangerous toxin:
Per Wiki: MSG is classified by the FDA as an excitotoxin, a dangerous neurotoxin that shrivels and kills brain cells and has been linked to causing seizures, migraines, heart palpitations and even cancer, amongst it's many symptoms.... in people! Never mind your dog, YOU should be avoiding MSG! It's definitely one of those things you should not feed a dog.
http://evidenceofmsgtoxicity.blogspot.com/: All processed free glutamic acid (MSG) – no matter how produced -- is neurotoxic (kills brain cells) and is endocrine disrupting (damages the endocrine system) (7-8). In addition, all processed free glutamic acid (MSG) will cause adverse reactions ranging from feelings of mild discomfort or simple skin rash to such things as irritable bowel, asthma, migraine headache, mood swings, heart irregularities, asthma, seizures, and depression when the amount of MSG ingested exceeds a person's MSG-tolerance level(9).
http://thehydrantblog.com/2012/07/31/dog-food-and-the-hidden-msg/ MSG or glutamate is a suspected addictive neurotoxin that has been associated with chest pain, headaches, numbness, asthmatic reactions, brain damage (in rats, rabbits, chicks and monkeys), depression, irritability, and mood changes, reproductive dysfunction in males and females, nervous symptoms (decreased sensibility in neck, arms and back) and irregular heartbeat. It’s also on the FDA’s list for further study for possible mutagenic teratogenic, subacute and reproductive effects.


Here is a natural deterrent: Only Natural Pet Stool Eating Deterrent Dog Supplement



If considering changing foods, I would suggest high quality food such as The Honest Kitchen Dehydrated Food www.thehonestkitchen.com , or Acana Grain Free www.acana.com or Fromm's Four Star Grain Free Four-Star Gourmet Recipes for dogs - Fromm Family Foods


Hope you find something that works for your dog!
Moms
01-24-2014 04:59 PM
llombardo I now have two for sure poop eaters and the third is digging for grubs and ends up with poop. It's to cold outside for me to give a poop. I try distracting them, telling them leave it, but I'm not on them like usual, because I'm in a nice warm house.
01-24-2014 04:13 PM
LoveEcho Why Do Dogs Eat Poop | Coprophagia in Dogs | VCA Animal Hospitals

At her age, I'd look into exploring some of the other causes besides "typical puppy behavior." There are all kinds of remedies out there that work for some, don't work for others... the only fail-proof prevention is what Baillif mentioned
01-24-2014 03:57 PM
middleofnowhere Yup. I am out there with her on a long line. I've taken too praising and calling so she IF on the line, will leap away and come to me. Not on the line or don't pick it up & it is a snack! If I'm not on the other end of that line, it is a snack. Mine's just under 5 months.
01-24-2014 03:27 PM
SummerGSDLover
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baillif View Post
Clean up the poop

Also don't give her kisses on the mouth.

You're welcome.
LOL! Yes. Agree

*-*Summer*-*
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