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|05-19-2014 12:52 PM|
|Gwenhwyfair||Guys, not saying you shouldn't post, just a heads up that this thread is several months old....|
|05-19-2014 12:47 PM|
I watched a documentary on this... It was explained as this.... Dogs never completely grow out of the puppy brain. They will always be more dependent on someone else. You can also take a young wolf, and a young dog... Raised with the exact same human contact... place a piece of food in a cage and let them go.... The wolf will be relentless and never asking of help. It will just keep trying to pry the door open, while the dog.... After trying for a few moments.... Will look to the human for assistance.
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|05-19-2014 12:03 PM|
Originally Posted by Draugr View Post
I assume this is a young person.
When I was 19, I was that romantic dolt, and thought having a wolfdog as a pet would be the coolest thing ever. Others warned me, but being 19, I knew everything already and thought *my* wolf would be different! Other people just didn't know how to raise 'em right! Predictably, getting a wolfdog was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made and one of my worst regrets.
The breeder made me take him home at 4 weeks of age so that he would "bond" with me. I already had a GSD mix at the time, so the pup would have a canine buddy. The wolfdog worshipped my GSD mix and pretty much ignored me. He was cute, and friendly, and loved people and other dogs when he was young. He also chewed through doors, ate trees, the siding off the house, and constantly escaped the yard. He screamed and howled if left alone. He knew "sit" and "lie down" if you had a treat for him, otherwise he pretty much did what he felt like.
He got me kicked out of my rental, and at 10 months of age I had to give him up, as I became homeless. I gave him to a couple who lived in the mountains, which I thought was great, until I went up to visit him and found him chained to a tree with an empty water trough. He subsequently escaped that home and wound up about 20 miles away across the canyon, at a home where a female wolfdog was living. They liked him and asked to keep him, I of course was only too happy to say yes. I visited him often and he seemed to be getting on well in that home.
Then one day while I was volunteering at the local animal shelter, I saw him in one of the kennels. Seems he and the female had gotten loose and were harassing a neighbor's chickens. The female was shot and killed, so in fear for his life, the family took him to the shelter. He was adopted by some folks who were moving to acreage in Washington and I can only hope he lived out the rest of his life well.
Feel free to share this story with your friend, and expect them to say "But THIS time it'll be different, because I'm going to do it right!" But thinking that you can tame, train and make a wolf into a pet by being "harsh" is going to get your friend seriously hurt or killed. Mark my words.
|05-19-2014 11:50 AM|
Originally Posted by Susan_GSD_mom View Post
|05-19-2014 07:32 AM|
Books on wolves by David Mech are also great reading.
|05-19-2014 07:28 AM|
Dominance in dogs- fact or fiction?
DOMINANCE IN DOGS - FACT OR FICTION? - Dog Training and Behavior - Dogwise.com
This book "Dominance in dogs- fact or fiction?" by Barry Eaton is a great, concise summary of the differences between dogs and wolves and how it affects our training methods. It covers how some of the training methods commonly used are based on misconceptions of wolf behavior caused by studying unnatural, captive wolf packs.
I highly recommend it.
|01-26-2014 04:26 PM|
Dogs have been selectively bred and domesticated for submission to humans. Wolves will give you a VERY nasty authority challenge that will land you in the hospital if you are lucky!
|01-26-2014 01:30 AM|
|HarleyTheGSD||Thank you both for the replies. I'll show them your posts. I want this friend to actually understand what a wolf is.|
|01-25-2014 01:56 PM|
Growing up, I had an uncle who had a wild animal permit. He took in rescues (native and exotic) from these idiots until they were rehabilitated enough to go to a wildlife reserve. I can't count how many coyote and bobcat babies people thought they could tame, until the bobcat ate their Pomeranian (true story!). He even raised a pair of Bengal tiger cubs from a bottle, and they were still very much wild animals, even at just 4 months old. As a kid, it was the single coolest thing to get to experience those animals, but it also gave me a healthy respect for the "wild" in wild animal.
I had someone give me a wolf/GSD hybrid as a week old puppy who's mother abandoned them, and he helped me raise him. That was the most challenging animal I've ever owned, I could not have done it without expert help. He was three when I went off to college and my uncle still has him, he's old now but still very wolf-y. You can just see it in his eyes. Anyone that thinks he'd make a good family pet is an idiot. No doubt he was a fun companion and I love him, but he had zero tolerance for small children, and the only other pet we could have was my female mastiff mix who he looked up to like his mother. He had to go in the barn if we had company and couldn't have packages delivered. I won't ever have another, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone without experience with wild animals.
|01-25-2014 01:02 PM|
Tell them to check out "Nova: Dogs Decoded" on Netflix. Really simple and interesting show. Really covers the differences between wild canines and domesticated ones.
They ran an experiment where the same people raised puppies, then raised wolves, and compared the behavior. Wolves just didn't listen. No matter what. They just didn't care. Even at like 3-4 months, nothing mattered but what they wanted. Dogs on the other hand...well, we know how dogs act.
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