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01-26-2014 03:26 PM
Draugr
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Originally Posted by HarleyTheGSD View Post
A friend of mine wants a wolf, and I told them this. They didn't believe me.
They said that if they are harsh enough with the wolf, it would learn to listen. And if you raise it from a puppy, like a domestic dog, it would be just like a domestic dog.
I wish they could just talk to a wolf expert and get this information in person. Maybe they'd finally get it through their thick skulls.
Being "harsh" with a wolf is going to get your friend killed. What limited training CAN be done with wolves & wolf hybrids is most successful in completely the opposite direction.

Dogs have been selectively bred and domesticated for submission to humans. Wolves will give you a VERY nasty authority challenge that will land you in the hospital if you are lucky!
01-26-2014 12:30 AM
HarleyTheGSD Thank you both for the replies. I'll show them your posts. I want this friend to actually understand what a wolf is.
01-25-2014 12:56 PM
havery
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A friend of mine wants a wolf, and I told them this. They didn't believe me.
They said that if they are harsh enough with the wolf, it would learn to listen. And if you raise it from a puppy, like a domestic dog, it would be just like a domestic dog.
I wish they could just talk to a wolf expert and get this information in person. Maybe they'd finally get it through their thick skulls.
Just like all those people that raised lion cubs from babies. "Oh, if I raise them tame they'll be good pets!" Years later, we see them in the headlines. "Local man in critical condition after lion attack." Wolves are no different.

Growing up, I had an uncle who had a wild animal permit. He took in rescues (native and exotic) from these idiots until they were rehabilitated enough to go to a wildlife reserve. I can't count how many coyote and bobcat babies people thought they could tame, until the bobcat ate their Pomeranian (true story!). He even raised a pair of Bengal tiger cubs from a bottle, and they were still very much wild animals, even at just 4 months old. As a kid, it was the single coolest thing to get to experience those animals, but it also gave me a healthy respect for the "wild" in wild animal.

I had someone give me a wolf/GSD hybrid as a week old puppy who's mother abandoned them, and he helped me raise him. That was the most challenging animal I've ever owned, I could not have done it without expert help. He was three when I went off to college and my uncle still has him, he's old now but still very wolf-y. You can just see it in his eyes. Anyone that thinks he'd make a good family pet is an idiot. No doubt he was a fun companion and I love him, but he had zero tolerance for small children, and the only other pet we could have was my female mastiff mix who he looked up to like his mother. He had to go in the barn if we had company and couldn't have packages delivered. I won't ever have another, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone without experience with wild animals.
01-25-2014 12:02 PM
martemchik Tell them to check out "Nova: Dogs Decoded" on Netflix. Really simple and interesting show. Really covers the differences between wild canines and domesticated ones.

They ran an experiment where the same people raised puppies, then raised wolves, and compared the behavior. Wolves just didn't listen. No matter what. They just didn't care. Even at like 3-4 months, nothing mattered but what they wanted. Dogs on the other hand...well, we know how dogs act.
01-25-2014 11:52 AM
HarleyTheGSD
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A wolf cannot be fully trusted around children and small animals because its prey drive is genetically encoded. That cannot be eliminated through socialization/training. At best it can be suppressed. A tame wolf will inevitably challenge its owner for dominance. Dogs do it too but in the end they know always know humans are the alpha in the family "pack." Wolves are not suitable as pets because a lot of work is required to produce in them the same degree of reliability seen in dogs. And they won't always obey human commands.

Dogs are the product of thousands of years of human breeding designed to produce animals completely dependent on us for their survival and who can actually tolerate the stresses of living in captivity. That will never happen with a wolf! It should be kept in the wild where it truly belongs. Trying to turn it into an imitation dog is a disservice to such a beautiful and powerful animal. A wolf may respect us but it will never love us unconditionally and show us the devotion of a dog.
A friend of mine wants a wolf, and I told them this. They didn't believe me.
They said that if they are harsh enough with the wolf, it would learn to listen. And if you raise it from a puppy, like a domestic dog, it would be just like a domestic dog.
I wish they could just talk to a wolf expert and get this information in person. Maybe they'd finally get it through their thick skulls.
01-24-2014 09:56 PM
selzer Wild things ought to stay in the wild:

snopes.com: Roped Deer

They can't say whether or not it is a true account. I doubt it. No one who works with horses or cows would wrap a rope around their waist -- that's a good way to get killed, when working with a large flight animal.

But it's a fun read anyhow.
01-24-2014 09:22 PM
JackandMattie
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Originally Posted by HarleyTheGSD View Post
Lol! Good idea!
Yep. I lived in Africa for a while. And I can tell you, if you want Wild and Untamed, those Ostriches are seriously Vicious We had both in our back forty, but it wasn't the lions who scared us. Of all the animals, it was the big birds, lol.

Kinda like keeping a parakeet, Not!! Same as thinking I can keep GSDs and Wolves...Makes No common sense


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01-24-2014 09:14 PM
HarleyTheGSD
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Yep. Tell them if they want to own a wild animal, catch a flight to Africa and catch themselves an Ostrich. That might set them straight, lol.


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Lol! Good idea!
01-24-2014 09:08 PM
JackandMattie
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Thank you all for the very informative replies.
Now I know what to tell someone if they say they want a pet wolf.
Yep. Tell them if they want to own a wild animal, catch a flight to Africa and catch themselves an Ostrich. That might set them straight, lol.


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01-24-2014 09:01 PM
HarleyTheGSD Thank you all for the very informative replies.
Now I know what to tell someone if they say they want a pet wolf.
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