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01-25-2014 12:40 PM
my boy diesel
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma View Post
The key word here is SOME............
There are always two sides to every study.


Smoking is bad for your health, studies show it causes cancer. Yet many folks believe the studies are biased and still smoke.

Studies show spaying/neutering early causes issues. Some believe it doesn't.
This is a decision that should be made by the pet owner. The person should not be shamed into thinking they are wrong for deciding their choice is early spay/neuter. For deciding that THEY do not want to worry about having to keep an intact dog/bitch away from breeding. That THEY should feel guilty for making a decision based on THEIR lifestyle.
I am sorry, but being as old as dirt, I have been around dogs for over 50 years and way back when that dirt was new, dogs were routinely spayed/neutered early and the humane societies etc were not full to overflowing. Dogs lived to 15 and 16 years old. Didn't seem to cause any problems back then.
I suspect that many folks believe it causes problems, there are studies for and against, but darn it folks, and make them feel wrong about their decision.
I have raised and shown dogs for years. I hate intact males and intact females being in the same kennels, much less in my house. Pain in the butt for all concerned. I never had an oops litters because I was very vigilant, but did I do it for health issues? No, I kept intact animals for the show ring.
My personal pets are always and have always been spayed/neutered early and they always will be.


i can avoid any oops but point is, my dog enhances my life and enjoyment thereof, i didn't get a dog to make my life more of a pain than it already is. and that's how most run of the mill pet owners feel.
you're not smarter for having intact animals and we're not dumb or lazier for speutering them.
01-25-2014 10:43 AM
shepherdmom
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
Why do you hate saying it? It's the wise ones who are willing to change and not be stuck in a certain way. I'll also neuter my dog in his middle ages. I just wouldn't take away testosterone from a growing 10 year old boy if that makes sense.


Spayed or Neutered Dogs Have Higher Disease Rates
Cause I hate being wrong
01-25-2014 01:17 AM
boomer11 Why do you hate saying it? It's the wise ones who are willing to change and not be stuck in a certain way. I'll also neuter my dog in his middle ages. I just wouldn't take away testosterone from a growing 10 year old boy if that makes sense.


Spayed or Neutered Dogs Have Higher Disease Rates
01-25-2014 12:21 AM
shepherdmom Dang... I really hate saying this but I took my girl in for her rabies shot today. Had a long talk with my vet of 10 years. She wants me to wait 18 months to neuter Sargent. I don't know if the rescue will let me wait. If they do, will I be able to stand a butt head male for 18 months? But she says there are new studies out of California that are showing it is better for large dogs. So if I'm allowed to wait by the rescue & he doesn't get aggressive with my current dogs. I'll wait. *sigh*
01-24-2014 01:37 PM
huntergreen all of my dogs have been neutered shortly after 6 months of age. only lost one dog to cancer. i am more concerned about dm and other problems.
01-24-2014 11:51 AM
shepherdmom
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Originally Posted by David Winners View Post
How is it responsible if the act, as some believe, is detrimental to the development of the dog?
The proven benefits are enormous. "Spaying females prior to their first heat cycle nearly eliminates the risk of breast cancer and totally prevents uterine infections and uterine cancer. Neutering males prevents testicular cancer and enlargement of the prostate gland, and greatly reduces their risk for perianal tumors" (Spaying / Neutering)

and of course no puppies. Each person has to weight the benefits for themselves and for their families. To to the average pet owner who doesn't show, doesn't work, doesn't breed...How is it not the responsible choice?
01-24-2014 11:19 AM
lhczth
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Originally Posted by wyominggrandma View Post
This is a decision that should be made by the pet owner. The person should not be shamed into thinking they are wrong for deciding their choice is early spay/neuter. For deciding that THEY do not want to worry about having to keep an intact dog/bitch away from breeding. That THEY should feel guilty for making a decision based on THEIR lifestyle.
And I should not be shamed, ostracized and financially punished for doing what I feel is best for my animals (and that means not removing their sexual organs until *I* make the choice to do so, if ever).

People need to weigh both sides of the issue and then make the best choice for them and their dogs. Unfortunately society has been brainwashed to believe that there is only once choice.
01-24-2014 10:54 AM
robk If you are going to leave your dog in unsupervised situations that expose her to the possibility of being bred, then by all means, spay as early as you can. However, if you can keep an eye on her and keep her away from males during heat cycles, then I see no reason to ever spay her. I don't believe for a moment that spayed/neutered dogs are healthier than dogs left intact. In fact, I believe the opposite is true.
01-24-2014 10:45 AM
LoveEcho
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Originally Posted by my boy diesel View Post
thing is, speuter is responsible pet ownership too.
people seem to forget that around here.
The question posed here isn't whether or not to spay/neuter, but WHEN to do it. Many people are not up for the task of owning an intact animal, and their lifestyles do not really mesh with it. BUT, can they manage it until it is healthier for the animal to be altered?
01-24-2014 10:30 AM
wyominggrandma
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Originally Posted by David Winners View Post
How is it responsible if the act, as some believe, is detrimental to the development of the dog?
The key word here is SOME............
There are always two sides to every study.

Smoking is bad for your health, studies show it causes cancer. Yet many folks believe the studies are biased and still smoke.

Studies show spaying/neutering early causes issues. Some believe it doesn't.
This is a decision that should be made by the pet owner. The person should not be shamed into thinking they are wrong for deciding their choice is early spay/neuter. For deciding that THEY do not want to worry about having to keep an intact dog/bitch away from breeding. That THEY should feel guilty for making a decision based on THEIR lifestyle.
I am sorry, but being as old as dirt, I have been around dogs for over 50 years and way back when that dirt was new, dogs were routinely spayed/neutered early and the humane societies etc were not full to overflowing. Dogs lived to 15 and 16 years old. Didn't seem to cause any problems back then.
I suspect that many folks believe it causes problems, there are studies for and against, but darn it folks, and make them feel wrong about their decision.
I have raised and shown dogs for years. I hate intact males and intact females being in the same kennels, much less in my house. Pain in the butt for all concerned. I never had an oops litters because I was very vigilant, but did I do it for health issues? No, I kept intact animals for the show ring.
My personal pets are always and have always been spayed/neutered early and they always will be.
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