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07-26-2015 08:02 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by Longfisher View Post
although I see lots of folks carry golf clubs on their walks. Good thing they live in my chalky white neighborhood or they'd probably be shot on sight in a black neighborhood.
....Tiger Woods???
07-26-2015 07:57 PM
Chip18
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Originally Posted by IronhorseRomo View Post
Wasn't the dogs fault. It was his owner who did not train his dog properly to be around people and other animals.


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I understand, I meant I'm sorry you had to make that choice is all. Not something I would want to have to do!

But if my dog is under control...all bets are off!
07-24-2015 07:24 PM
Moriah Longfisher--You are the James Bond of walking dogs!! Instead of a sports car you have a GSD. Loved your post--I could never do it myself. I think I could scream and yell and get in front of my dog. After that I'm toast.
07-24-2015 03:49 PM
Longfisher
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I can vouch for this with experience. Unless you already know where the problem dog is coming from ahead of time you probably won't have that pepper spray handy. When a dog finally came at me and my pup on a walk I had very little time from first noticing the dog was coming to physical contact with the dog. There would have been no time to uncap and aim. I stepped up and went on offense as soon as it was clear a stomp and warning would not be enough to stop the dog.

I've broken up plenty of dog spats physically without injury to myself. They're dogs not badgers. Now if you're dealing with trained attack dogs ok you have a problem. Good luck with that.

Walking stick would have been nice though. Would have been time for that.
It is extremely important to maintain situational awareness.

Sometimes I'm so into detecting the presence of other dogs on my walks with my wife and my dog that I fall silent as the conversation distracts me.

I've gotten pretty good at it too. When I hear a gate slam closed in the distance or see a garage door open or see a front door open I'm watching intently. Where we live most dogs are penned or fenced. but the owners often lose control of them when moving from yard to yard or from the house to the auto.

LF

P.S. Walking sticks other than canes are classified as clubs here in Texas and carrying one is a felony, although I see lots of folks carry golf clubs on their walks. Good thing they live in my chalky white neighborhood or they'd probably be shot on sight in a black neighborhood.
07-24-2015 03:28 PM
Longfisher Now that Zeus is 100 + lbs. and is solid as a brick shirt house we don't have the trouble we used to have on our walks. At least, it's been a while.

But here's what I do (did?) after learning what doesn't work. Firstly, I never let go of the leash as that would make Zeus run and that triggered an even more fierce attack. Instead, I quickly wrap it once around my wast (six ft.) and then take the loop in my teeth.

Then with the dog close to my left side I give him a low growl which he as learned means that I've sensed a threat, active or inactive, close or far. And, he alerts and begins to look for what I've warned him about.

At the same time I'm alerting Zeus I strip from my web-belt for my fanny pack (carries water, training tools, toys, etc.) a quick release pouch and from it I pull a very loud air horn and a smaller pepper spray. I keep the horn in my right hand, I control the leash with my left and also place the small pepper spray, off-safe, in my teeth.

And, then we countercharge the menacing animal at full tilt, with the dog aroused and with me shouting through my teeth and sounding the horn until the other dog runs for the freaking hills. I even do this when a dog's owner is close at hand if the dog's poorly controlled.

If the horn and the charge doesn't run him off I throw the horn and the rest of the bag which had contained the spray and horn at the dog in sequence. No reaction, then I take the pepper spray from my teeth and then continue the charge with the pepper spray and my dog right with me. I like the kind of spray that shoots a long orange stream some distance. By now the other dog is always moving and is seldom hit by the spray. But the stream unnerves them and hasn't failed yet at breaking a charge.

I tried many things before this. Almost all of the less direct methods resulted in my dog being attacked and once bitten badly.

If the encounter becomes an assault by the dog of the owner on my person I'll use my pistols (one in the fanny pack and one in the waist band to whatever extent I must. I have a CHL and here in Texas it's legal to defend your person with one.

LF
07-24-2015 01:00 PM
IronhorseRomo
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Originally Posted by Chip18 View Post
The only sure fire "non lethal" way to go a dog off once he has clamped on is with the use of a "Break Stick" not many of us carry one around on a daily basis.



Although awkward a walking stick that tapered down could serve that purpose!



Sorry you had to shoot the dog most Pitts seem to have a disproportionate number of "fools" for owners!



Pitts are powerful,numerous and cheap! If they were priced like a Dogo Argentino...I'd bet there were be fewer running around loose!



A $200 Pitt Puppy tax would slow it down I bet! But yeah taxes and "Guberment" whole nother story!

Wasn't the dogs fault. It was his owner who did not train his dog properly to be around people and other animals. I carry on a daily basis and practice as often as I can. I don't look to my dogs for defense. Regardless of how big or protective they might be. I wanted to shoot the owner in the foot for allowing the whole situation unfold. His dog died all on the account of his stupid owner.


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07-24-2015 12:28 PM
royals17 Only once did I get in this sort of situation.
I was walking Apollo and a dog -I don't know if it was stray or not; no collar- was walking up the street. When he saw Apollo he came running at us barking. When he got close enough I kicked him pretty hard in the shoulder. He fell over and ran the other direction, and Apollo got in a few good barks. I always have pepper spray on me, but I didn't think of it until about 20 mins later. Boot did the trick, though!
07-24-2015 11:53 AM
Chip18
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I've only had two cases where me and my dog were attacked by another dog.
The first time I had nothing to defend us. He was a stray dog. He was a medium sized mutt. I kicked him pretty hard and he backed off and ran away. Now I don't go anywhere without my CCP ( concealed carry pistol ). Fast forward a year later, me and my family were at a local park. It's a very big park. They have trails for hiking, bikes, running, horses, places for party's, disc golf, and so on. Very outdoorsy park. A guy let his pit bull off his leash and he ran up to my dog in a playful manner. Then he just grabbed my dog by the neck and slammed her to the ground. Me and the owner couldn't get the dog off. I pushed him aside and shot that dog. Police and park rangers came quickly. There were plenty of witnesses. I showed my license and we were free to go. Luckily she wasn't hurt very bad. The owner of that pit bull was very upset. I don't know if he went to jail but he was in handcuffs when we left.


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The only sure fire "non lethal" way to go a dog off once he has clamped on is with the use of a "Break Stick" not many of us carry one around on a daily basis.

Although awkward a walking stick that tapered down could serve that purpose!

Sorry you had to shoot the dog most Pitts seem to have a disproportionate number of "fools" for owners!

Pitts are powerful,numerous and cheap! If they were priced like a Dogo Argentino...I'd bet there were be fewer running around loose!

A $200 Pitt Puppy tax would slow it down I bet! But yeah taxes and "Guberment" whole nother story!
07-24-2015 09:57 AM
IronhorseRomo I've only had two cases where me and my dog were attacked by another dog.
The first time I had nothing to defend us. He was a stray dog. He was a medium sized mutt. I kicked him pretty hard and he backed off and ran away. Now I don't go anywhere without my CCP ( concealed carry pistol ). Fast forward a year later, me and my family were at a local park. It's a very big park. They have trails for hiking, bikes, running, horses, places for party's, disc golf, and so on. Very outdoorsy park. A guy let his pit bull off his leash and he ran up to my dog in a playful manner. Then he just grabbed my dog by the neck and slammed her to the ground. Me and the owner couldn't get the dog off. I pushed him aside and shot that dog. Police and park rangers came quickly. There were plenty of witnesses. I showed my license and we were free to go. Luckily she wasn't hurt very bad. The owner of that pit bull was very upset. I don't know if he went to jail but he was in handcuffs when we left.


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07-24-2015 04:05 AM
Chip18 I keep meaning to update this with info I found and keep forgetting but in light of my recent, incident (which was nothing in the big scheme of things) but I was uhh perturbed!

I'll add this now however for others that have "real" problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvqFEH5-qQ

In my case this time...none of that was required but now I understand why some perfer to down there dog in an encounter! Rocky "choice to come from behind me and stood beside me to see what the fuss??

I was not happy with his independent choice but to be fair I did not "tell him" to "stay" I 'Assumed" it would have been a given.

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http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...1-post143.html
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