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01-15-2014 08:02 PM
DJEtzel
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Originally Posted by farnln View Post
Hmm? My CGC instructor told us that we could NOT use ANY command, such as 'stay' for this part of the test.
I had to hand my dog off to a stranger and then walk out of sight, no command at all was allowed. It freaked my dog out!
It was VERY difficult for my dog and I don't think she could do it now. We managed to pass the test, but this was the hardest part by far.
If I told her to 'stay' or put her in a sit or down, she would have been ok with it, but again, I was told I couldn't do that.
Sounds like you had a bad instructor. That's not how it is supposed to work. :/
01-15-2014 07:52 PM
Nigel
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
i honestly wouldnt know as i've never given my dog to a stranger before. i wouldnt put it past him to bite a stranger who's restraining him from me. a highly civil shepherd + a stranger is not a good match. i bet there are a bunch of schutzhund dogs that couldnt pass this part of the test and will never be "good citizens"
Maybe not, he may be just fine, especially away from your home where your bite occurred (if that was a factor in that incident?) At my wife's club, people hand their dogs off to others to run back to their car, restroom break etc... and while some dogs are familiar with others, some are not, never had an issue. The CGC evaluator just holds the leash and doesn't really interact with the dog at all.
01-15-2014 07:09 PM
gsdlover91 I trained my dog to stay. When I walked away I told him the command.
01-15-2014 06:45 PM
Saphire
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
i honestly wouldnt know as i've never given my dog to a stranger before. i wouldnt put it past him to bite a stranger who's restraining him from me. a highly civil shepherd + a stranger is not a good match. i bet there are a bunch of schutzhund dogs that couldnt pass this part of the test and will never be "good citizens"
I know nothing about Schutzhund but I am under the impression these dogs are well trained and don't go into attack mode on their own outside of the field. I could be very wrong and look forward to someone experienced to jump in on this.

I would not be impressed if my dog went into attack mode if I handed off the leash to a stranger. In fact, I have done so when doing master tracks. I could be in the field with him and get injured myself and have no choice but to hand him over and certainly would expect him to be upset but not to the point of attacking.
01-15-2014 06:11 PM
boomer11
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Originally Posted by Saphire View Post
Your dog would become aggressive to someone aka stranger if you handed them the leash and walked away?
i honestly wouldnt know as i've never given my dog to a stranger before. i wouldnt put it past him to bite a stranger who's restraining him from me. a highly civil shepherd + a stranger is not a good match. i bet there are a bunch of schutzhund dogs that couldnt pass this part of the test and will never be "good citizens"
01-15-2014 03:41 PM
Neko
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Originally Posted by farnln View Post
Hmm? My CGC instructor told us that we could NOT use ANY command, such as 'stay' for this part of the test.
I had to hand my dog off to a stranger and then walk out of sight, no command at all was allowed. It freaked my dog out!
It was VERY difficult for my dog and I don't think she could do it now. We managed to pass the test, but this was the hardest part by far.
If I told her to 'stay' or put her in a sit or down, she would have been ok with it, but again, I was told I couldn't do that.
It sayes right on the guide to use as many commands as the owner wants i still have the form from last month to send in. but the form was recently updated.
01-15-2014 03:41 PM
Neko
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Originally Posted by arby665 View Post
Karly is taking her CGC test next month. The only problem we are going to have is with the "Supervised Separation" portion of the test. She throws an absolute fit if I walk away. Anyone have any tips on how to get past this? I'm thinking click and treat every time she stops squealing and gradually phasing that out. We have a few weeks to correct this and I'm confident we will work through it.
Zeus put up a fit. He passed.

The trainer said that its normal for the breed at a young age and that he is herding me. I like this because i can let him off leash and he stick by me at the beach. This is an old rule when people used to leave dogs outside the store etc.. not even recommended anymore.

One thing you can do is get your dog SUPER tired before the test!!!

They only make sure that your dog is not aggressive when u walk away to get to you. I was told that Zeus was upset, gave a good pull. But calmed down and watched in my direction until i was called back inside the building.

It's up to you if you want to untrain this behavior, but i dont, It's not ok for him to be separated from me in public and I intend to keep it this way. At home and when i leave for work there is no anxiety.

Good luck!
01-15-2014 03:40 PM
farnln Hmm? My CGC instructor told us that we could NOT use ANY command, such as 'stay' for this part of the test.
I had to hand my dog off to a stranger and then walk out of sight, no command at all was allowed. It freaked my dog out!
It was VERY difficult for my dog and I don't think she could do it now. We managed to pass the test, but this was the hardest part by far.
If I told her to 'stay' or put her in a sit or down, she would have been ok with it, but again, I was told I couldn't do that.
01-15-2014 03:25 PM
Saphire
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Originally Posted by boomer11 View Post
Does the "stranger" have to be holding the leash? My dog could be in a down stay with me out of sight no problem but if a stranger grabbed his leash they might die.
Your dog would become aggressive to someone aka stranger if you handed them the leash and walked away?
01-15-2014 11:37 AM
arby665
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Does the "stranger" have to be holding the leash? My dog could be in a down stay with me out of sight no problem but if a stranger grabbed his leash they might die.
I'm also wondering how much this had to do with Karly's reaction. She is fine with strangers but maybe it has something to do with a stranger having control of her.
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