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01-12-2014 11:13 AM
halfcrunchy
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Personality trait and a bad day. Maybe you just have a naturally timid pup. I never had any problems with my boy or girl, they were quite boisterous as pups, and none of this is necessarily a gauge of what their mature character will be like. If you're attending puppy social club then you're probably noticing how varied the puppies temperaments are, even within litters there is a lot of variation. Nobody's dog is perfect, we all have to work on the shortcomings of our animal in one way or another, and some more than others need to invest time in developing personality to a point that most closely resembles our ideal.

Of course, a lot of this can be circumvented through the implantation of proper breeding programs e.g. close line-breeding and solidifying desirable traits in that line. And selecting a pup from a breeder who has that approach to breeding. I don't think any of us want a timid or weak nerved dog, in fact I think it's something that potential German Shepherd owners fear most. It just makes more work for us, but it's not all negative, and the time you invest in your pup will be worth it, seeing them come out of their shell or face something that they were fearful of, is immensely rewarding - it'll teach you patience, diligence and determination - invaluable traits to have in relation to raising a dog.
Encouraging! Thank you. I love her and her smart thoughtful manner. I will look for an opportunity for her to socialize with more appropriate age/tempered dogs and keep working with her. We are all a work in progress =)
01-12-2014 11:13 AM
jocoyn I would let her spend as much time as possible with those senior labs if they are good to her. They will teach her so much. My current dog never had one day of puppy play after he left the litter but my expectation was to raise him as a "dog neutral" dog. Since then he has met plenty of other dogs, and is very gentle with puppies and cats. I am very pleased with our results and his social skills. If the itnent is for her to have doggy friends and play with other dogs then you may want that controlled puppy play.
01-12-2014 11:04 AM
halfcrunchy This is all so great to read. You are reinforcing what I was feeling about the class, but uncertain about. I agree, I don't think it was a good situation for the puppy class to have the one large dog and very rough play with two 3 month olds. I have found a small class puppy obedience that I am going to start in a couple of weeks. I can tell that my pup isn't partial to rough play in general by watching how she played with the other 3 month old (cattle dog, half her size). She spent a long weekend with my parents two senior labs and wasn't timid but respectful. I am so glad I posted this question, I think she is going to be fine. Thank you!
01-12-2014 10:51 AM
JanaeUlva Usually good puppy socialization classes split the puppies into more like sized groups, and/or energy levels, particularly when very young. Having a big 8 month old running with 4 month old pups is a bit much IMO. 8 month olds are more like puppies in adult sized bodies and that can translate into very rough play. As someone else already mentioned, your dog hiding under chairs and snapping at the other dogs when they approach is her protecting herself and she can't get over her fear if she can't interact and that means finding smaller and/or less exuberant pups. Also, the people running the socialization class should be seeing this and helping you out. When my female was 6 months (3rd socialization class) there was a big male (6 month) Chesapeake who would resource guard the water bowls and a big male standard poodle that was mounting other pups. Neither the owners or the class instructors were stopping the behavior. I picked my girl up and left the class and did not go back. Oh yeah, and one time someone actually let her out of the enclosure but I always watched her so I got her back right away. Long story short: a bad socialization class is worse than no puppy socialization class IMO.


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01-12-2014 10:44 AM
jocoyn I would actually be more inclined to find a very puppy savvy adult for her to meet and show her the ropes. Not one who is a dog used to playing with other dogs but a lot of working dogs have a calm temperament around puppies and a lot of tolerance and should help to bring her out.
01-12-2014 10:25 AM
Galathiel I think an 8 month old puppy is a bit old for a puppy social. I wouldn't let my young pup play with a large overwhelming (to it) pup that is much older.
01-12-2014 09:43 AM
doggiedad i think your dog is going to be ok. the actions of the day were
more traumatic on you than your pup. i've stepped on my pup.
when my dog was in his puppy class he use to play for a minute
then run under a chair. i made sure my dog was around other people
and animals a lot. train and socialize and you're going to have a
strong, confident dog.
01-12-2014 09:16 AM
Alwaysaworkingdog Personality trait and a bad day. Maybe you just have a naturally timid pup. I never had any problems with my boy or girl, they were quite boisterous as pups, and none of this is necessarily a gauge of what their mature character will be like. If you're attending puppy social club then you're probably noticing how varied the puppies temperaments are, even within litters there is a lot of variation. Nobody's dog is perfect, we all have to work on the shortcomings of our animal in one way or another, and some more than others need to invest time in developing personality to a point that most closely resembles our ideal.

Of course, a lot of this can be circumvented through the implantation of proper breeding programs e.g. close line-breeding and solidifying desirable traits in that line. And selecting a pup from a breeder who has that approach to breeding. I don't think any of us want a timid or weak nerved dog, in fact I think it's something that potential German Shepherd owners fear most. It just makes more work for us, but it's not all negative, and the time you invest in your pup will be worth it, seeing them come out of their shell or face something that they were fearful of, is immensely rewarding - it'll teach you patience, diligence and determination - invaluable traits to have in relation to raising a dog.
01-12-2014 02:15 AM
GSxOwner Don't worry, go at your dogs pace and I would try to find a young pup for your dog to play with. Much easier than being swarmed by a group of new dogs! My pup was a lil timid and I just took a step back and did not overwhelm her. Keep at it and don't doubt yourself or your dog, have fun!

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01-12-2014 01:06 AM
Stevenzachsmom It sounds like she was really overwhelmed during puppy social hour. Perhaps she could meet one on one with a calm pup her size. That might help to boost her confidence.
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