|01-11-2014 09:50 AM|
|carmspack||seems like the OP is long gone --|
|01-11-2014 09:45 AM|
|Jax08||I wish you hadn't! I love reading your posts!|
|01-11-2014 09:44 AM|
I get it GSDluver!!
And I actually had a nice response written about corrections and fear aggressive dogs and how it's worked and deleted it!
|01-10-2014 10:15 PM|
|01-10-2014 02:09 PM|
I also think that the OP's puppy is too young for an Ecollar. I don't like to go younger than six months.
Here are two anecdotes about this. Http://www.loucastle.com/roma2
|01-10-2014 01:55 PM|
|Blanketback||I agree Dani, but this is a great place to start if you're concerned about behaviors and you want to modify them. Take OP - maybe the guests in the house are cornering her puppy, trying to force interactions that the puppy clearly doesn't want. Maybe the puppy was already showing signs that you'd know mean "leave me alone" but OP missed. So now it's moved forward to growling. That's a clear sign to most, lol. Maybe this thread will help OP realize her puppy needs distance from the guests. It's not so much about giving perfect answers to "fix aggression" as it is to help people understand what could be contributing to the unwanted behavior. Once again, JMO.|
|01-10-2014 01:44 PM|
To me, this is a great place to get advice like, "how can I shape this behavior, how can I teach this new thing, anyone else going through this health issue?" Etc...to me it isn't the place to try and fix aggression.
|01-10-2014 01:31 PM|
Yeah, that's the full circle, lol. My air snapper was an adult when I got him, so who knows how much growling he did before he realized it got him nowhere. Same with your fosters. Who knows. But growling is a natural defense. It should mean, "Back off" and then what happens after that is up to the dog: fight or flight. Again, that's JMO.
ETA: Dani, there is no way to say exactly what to do, lol. It depends on the dog, and what's going on. Is it someone shoving unwanted petting? Easy fix, tell them to stop.
|01-10-2014 01:27 PM|
I really am in no place to offer advice in correcting/fixing true aggressive behavior...and I just don't think the internet is the best place for advice on this subject. There are so many factors and behaviors that can be easily missed by an owner, that only a good behaviorist/trainer could see in person....then get to know everything else about the dog, and make decisions from there on a plan moving forward. I always think it's so funny when people make 100% absolute observations on anything on the internet. I especially love the "is he purebred" threads....and all these people saying, "oh yeah..def shepherd." There is NO WAY to know that without pedigrees and parents. Yet, people are so certain based on a couple pics on the internet...same if someone says, "my pup was scared of fill in the blank." All of a sudden the dog is a nervy mess, will be a mess to manage, and the owner is going to have a 1000 problems.
I also like the, "a show line does not and will never have the nerves to protect." I love this because there is a guy around here who's dog bit a man he was in a physical altercation with, perfect SchH protection arm bite....just makes me smile, because I guarantee if he had talked about the dog during training most would think/say "oh that showline would never protect....it's a showline." Or "SchH is a sport....none of those dogs could/would actually protect in real life."
Anyhow, I'm just as guilty of this as most people around here....just starting to think that all these absolutes based on one or two sentences are pretty confident for a quick story or pic on the internet.
|01-10-2014 01:24 PM|
|G-burg||I guess another thing is.... not every dog is going to growl as a warning.. Have had several fosters like that.. so you do have to learn how to read body language, etc..|
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