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05-24-2014 02:38 PM
Msmaria
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Originally Posted by Doreen1 View Post
How much is adequan per dose during the loading phase and then during maintenance. Once a dog starts adequan, do they get injections the rest of their life?

Its usually 2 times a week for 4 weeks and then once a month after. I did the loading and did 3 months 1 times a month. We do oral glucosamine now.
05-24-2014 12:22 PM
jocoyn I, too, have given Acti-Flex (if we are thinking the same product) but I gave a smaller dose of the Acti-Flex 4000 as they did not have the K9 for a long time but people were giving the horse product to their dogs; same formulation..........

Good product! My severely dysplastic female did well of it. Right now I have some Springtime Longevity I wound up with and am giving it to Beau (he has DJD, not clear cut ED in his elbows).......though not sure what I will do when it runs out.

This is per serving and they recommend 4 for a dog his size but I am giving 3

Bee pollen3,000 mg
Raw spirulina (micro-algae)1,200 mg
Desiccated beef liver896 mg
Nutritional yeast culture800 mg
Chondroitin sulfate, min. 90% purity (bovine cartilage extract)400 mg
Glucosamine HCL, 99% (shellfish extract)400 mg
MSM, 99% (methyl sulfonyl methane)400 mg
Ascorbic acid (vitamin C)200 mg Citrus bioflavonoid complex, 40%200 mg
Carrot powder166 mg
Hesperidin, 85%102 mg
Kelp100 mg
Sea Salt100 mg
Biotin720 mcg
05-24-2014 11:49 AM
Doreen1 How much is adequan per dose during the loading phase and then during maintenance. Once a dog starts adequan, do they get injections the rest of their life?
01-08-2014 11:48 AM
Soundguy My 3 year old has UAP and is also very active and lives on a horse farm. I've always given Acti-Flex K9 to my dogs as I've never found a better joint supplement, but Cas has also been on green lipped sea mussel for about 8 months and I highly recommend it. I buy Xtend-life brand directly from New Zealand and I've seen really good results. I also give him Cetyl M as kind of a 'shotgun approach' to protection. Before he took sea mussel and Cetyl M he would get sore on his right elbow if he over it. Now, he does what he wants, rarely gets sore and if he does, his rebound time is much quicker. He has also never seen his x-rays so he thinks he's normal!
01-08-2014 11:34 AM
WVGSD I am a fan of Duralactin Equine Joint Plus. The dose for a GSD is one teaspoon daily and it has worked well for my seniors and rescued dogs with injuries.

The Joint Plus version has the glucosamine and chondroitin. A 3.75 pound bucket will last one dog about eight months at one teaspoon per day and looks like rabbit pellets. They are butter flavored and my dogs get them in their food mixed with warm water. There is never anything left behind.

Duralactin® for Equines
01-08-2014 11:25 AM
vom Eisenherz In a dog not showing any symptoms, now's the time to work on keeping it that way. It's not cheap, but Adequan is the way to to, imo, to PREVENT the dog from showing signs for hopefully, a long, long time. Read up on how it works before you dismiss it for cost. The loading dose is pricey, but remember, you can go months between injections after a while and the loading dose is only for a month or so.

I've seen amazing before and after x-rays with Adequan. Unfortunately, they were quite a few years ago and I don't have digital copies of them to post easily. There is more data from horse folks, so read that as well when making your decision.
01-08-2014 10:31 AM
Momto2GSDs
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Originally Posted by Magwart View Post
I'm a big fan of Natural Eggshell Membrane (NEM) and Biocell Collagen II (with Hyaluronic Acid), as well as fish oil (plus mixed-tocopherol Vitamin E), and Ester-C. (I ordered human-grade from Vitacost, when I had a very arthritic senior.)

This video is useful info about GAGs in joints--and NEM (but the supplement on the site is not what I bought):
Pet Joint Supplements | Healthy Joint Support - Mercola.com

I've also recently used Dasuquin on a foster dog with issues and it seemed to be very effective -- loading at a double-dose for a month, then stepping down to a maintenance dose. Vets seem to think highly of Dasuquin: What is Dasuquin®?

I would suggest you go beyond supplements and talk with your vet about Adequan injections (closely related to glucosamine and GAGs, but in a very absorbable form that goes into the synovial fluid and is incredibly effective for many dogs). There's a generic called Polyglycan that's less expensive, but has been effective for some younger dogs I know with HD. Both require a loading dose (a series of injections -- with adequan it's two a week for four weeks), then a maintenance dose (with young dogs, you may step down to just one a month).

The magic of these injections is they help lubricate the joint and build cartilage to cushion it -- healing rather than just masking inflammation. I know several young dogs with pretty bad HD who are on this stuff who run and play at full speed, without any sign of disease.
Good advice!

Mercola products are excellent too!

But, questionable with Dasuquin: DASUQUIN: contains
ASU Avocado/Soybean Unsaponifiables & Soy Protein Isolate
I am not a fan of any soy products for animals for the following reasons:
Per Dr. Karen Becker: “Soy is estrogenic and can wreak havoc on your dog’s endocrine system.”
Soybeans and/or soy products are not clinically proven to be safe for pets to consume.
Soybeans also contain potent enzyme-inhibitors. These inhibitors block uptake of trypsin and other enzymes which the body needs for protein digestion.
Soy contains a natural chemical that mimics estrogen, the female hormone.
-ASU possible side effects: stomach problems, rash. Soy supplements are also known to interact with iron.
Brewers Yeast (leftovers from distilling breweries)
While Brewers Yeast contains B vitamins (Biotin) and trace minerals some dogs may be sensitive to it especially if they have any allergies. Several references mention bloating, gas or indigestion is possible.

That being said, Dasuquin has had decent reviews so it boils down to a personal choice.

Moms
01-08-2014 09:51 AM
Momto2GSDs
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Originally Posted by FG167 View Post
Thank you so much for the info Momto2GSDs! I have read a lot about that green lipid mussel as well. You are pleased with it? This is another one I am very interested in: HylaSport Canine

LaRen, I have not yet (we just got the film results back). But, I do have several offers of pools I can take him to and I'm looking into them for sure!
Several years ago when I emailed them about whether or not any of their ingredients came from China and were tested for QUALITY, they never answered (I sent the email 3 times). I can't say whether that is still true today.

Yes, very happy with the Mussel Dog!

Also ask about Adequin shots from your vet. There is a generic formula.

Moms
01-08-2014 09:50 AM
Magwart I'm a big fan of Natural Eggshell Membrane (NEM) and Biocell Collagen II (with Hyaluronic Acid), as well as fish oil (plus mixed-tocopherol Vitamin E), and Ester-C. (I ordered human-grade from Vitacost, when I had a very arthritic senior.)

This video is useful info about GAGs in joints--and NEM (but the supplement on the site is not what I bought):
Pet Joint Supplements | Healthy Joint Support - Mercola.com

I've also recently used Dasuquin on a foster dog with issues and it seemed to be very effective -- loading at a double-dose for a month, then stepping down to a maintenance dose. Vets seem to think highly of Dasuquin: http://www.nutramaxlabs.com/products...at-is-dasuquin

I would suggest you go beyond supplements and talk with your vet about Adequan injections (closely related to glucosamine and GAGs, but in a very absorbable form that goes into the synovial fluid and is incredibly effective for many dogs). There's a generic called Polyglycan that's less expensive, but has been effective for some younger dogs I know with HD. Both require a loading dose (a series of injections -- with adequan it's two a week for four weeks), then a maintenance dose (with young dogs, you may step down to just one a month).

The magic of these injections is they help lubricate the joint and build cartilage to cushion it -- healing rather than just masking inflammation. I know several young dogs with pretty bad HD who are on this stuff who run and play at full speed, without any sign of disease.
01-08-2014 09:27 AM
FG167 Thank you so much for the info Momto2GSDs! I have read a lot about that green lipid mussel as well. You are pleased with it? This is another one I am very interested in: HylaSport Canine

LaRen, I have not yet (we just got the film results back). But, I do have several offers of pools I can take him to and I'm looking into them for sure!
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