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01-03-2014 01:56 PM
dawnandjr I dont think his recall needs to be solid before you get another puppy. Your at least 5 months out from getting one anyway (if the litter hasnt been bred yet). You can work on his recall with distractions. Go to the dog park, but stay out of the area that is fenced with the other dogs. Do you clicker train? You can work on redirecting his focus back to you when you call his name (doesnt have to come since you are just calling his name). This is on leash. Just start with the focus on you when you call his name. After this is mastered, with a longer leash, so he is farther away from you. Work on the focus on you when called. After that is solid. Work on the recall up close. Like right in front of you. Gradually extend this distance. Breaking down the exercises into tiny successes is how you get that solid training.
01-03-2014 12:21 AM
Originally Posted by huntergreen View Post
op, sounds like your gsd is not fully trained yet. a new pup could set you back quite a bit training wise. just something to consider.

Definitely something to consider. He knows all of his basic commands and follows them really well. The main thing I have a problem with is when he's playing with other dogs, his recall is almost non-existent (we frequent the dog park quite often. Yes, I'm one of "those guys"). However, we can be anywhere and if no other dogs are around, he is pretty sound. I guess I'm not sure just where he should be obedience-wise before we get another dog. Does he have to have rock-solid recall? He's never off-leash unless in an enclosed space. Any thoughts on goals for obedience before getting another dog?
01-03-2014 12:09 AM
huntergreen op, sounds like your gsd is not fully trained yet. a new pup could set you back quite a bit training wise. just something to consider.
01-02-2014 11:30 PM
d4lilbitz Hi Kodi-ak,

Just sent you a PM. I new to the forum as well. It's extremely helpful. I enjoy learning more about this amazing breed!
01-02-2014 10:56 PM
New Question

Hey folks,

So I talked to the breeder today and he is not going to be doing a repeat breeding between the parents of my current dog. He owns the female and will be breeding her with another WGSL dog that is an import and heavily titled (Sch3, IPO3, VA, kkl1) with great health background. The father is a very pretty dog and the mother should be coming into heat in early February so pup would be available likely in June.
Given that it won't be a repeat breeding, I'm just not as excited. I know that part of this is me wanting to replicate my current dog but I also know that isn't possible even with a sibling much less a half-sibling. The pros of getting a dog from this litter are that I know the breeder is a good guy who takes care of his dogs and is readily accessible. Also, I really love his female. I met her in person and she was slightly aloof but seemed very confident and opened up to us fairly quickly. I also find her very pretty (looks angulated in her stack photos like the WGSLs always do but totally different in person watching her move).
All that being said, I do love the black and red GSDs but I am also a fan of sable. After careful consideration, as Lee (wolfstraum) wrote, I definitely feel I will likely be happier with the temperament of a WGSL as opposed to a DDR. So even though I find the DDRs quite striking, I won't go with that line. So my new question is "any chance of finding a good dog with a WGSL temperament with sable markings?" Patterned sable is attractive as well. Again, just looking for a pet for a relatively high energy home that includes the dogs with most activities. Any breeder recs would be welcome. May just go with the original breeder even though the pups will be quite expensive but want to weigh all my options given how much this purchase will impact my family's life. Also, if anyone would like to offer any critique on the male that will be bred with my boy's mom, they can PM me and I'll send the link to them.
Thanks in advance.


P.S. By the way, nice to be here on the forum. What a great resource.
01-01-2014 08:36 PM
Originally Posted by Cheyanna View Post
What is DM?

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Hey Cheyanna,

DM is degenerative myelopathy. Myelo refers to the spinal cord and pathy in "med speak" means "something wrong." In truth, it can cause a myeloradiculopathy with radiculo referring to the nerve roots. This is kind of like a Lou Gehrig's Disease for dogs. Very very debilitating. It is a recessive trait so the dog needs to get a gene from each parent to have it. However, it is my understanding that there have been some dogs that have gotten this with only one gene which doesn't seem possible. However, I don't know much about these cases. If they are basing the diagnosis simply on clinical presentation (how the dog looks) then it could have been another similar condition from a different undiscovered cause such as a much rarer gene mutation that presents in a similar fashion. By the way, to dawnandjr, could you steer me in the right direction on some literature regarding the controversy. I'd like to research that as I was not aware of this. But I'm not an expert on dog genetics so I really haven't googled it all that much. Pretty interesting stuff though. Thanks in advance.
01-01-2014 08:24 PM
Originally Posted by dawnandjr View Post
If you want to take a look at this breeders site. She breeds quality, healthy, sound temperament. Not everyone is on the DM testing band wagon yet. Still lots of controversy about the testing/results.

Austerlitz German Shepherd Dogs

Thanks for the link. Will check them out.
01-01-2014 04:10 PM
Cheyanna What is DM?

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01-01-2014 03:23 PM
dawnandjr If you want to take a look at this breeders site. She breeds quality, healthy, sound temperament. Not everyone is on the DM testing band wagon yet. Still lots of controversy about the testing/results.

Austerlitz German Shepherd Dogs
01-01-2014 10:45 AM
Kodi-ak Onyx's Girl,

Yes, if he does a repeat breeding with Kodi's parents then that will be our first choice. However, he owns the female and anther breeder owns the male so not sure if he will be going that route. Just depends on what he wants to do with his lines.


Very thoughtful reply of yours and much appreciated. And yeah, from what I've read, I think I'm probably more of a WGSL person though I've been around several DDR dogs over the past year that got along quite well with Kodi and my son and were a pleasure to be around. Anyway, their owners said that they were DDR and they looked it but I'm novice enough to be duped if they were just ignorant but more informed than myself.
Do you think that $1500 is reasonable for what I'm looking to get? Also, if I go with any other WGSL breeder, please PM me any breeders you would steer clear of if not too much trouble. And thanks again for a very informative reply.
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