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03-31-2014 12:50 PM
Momto2GSDs Here is additional info of other products to try for incontinence.

Sometimes with dogs, you have to experiment to see what is going to work for a particular dog. With "natural" things like homeopathic's or herbals or acupuncture, etc., what works for one may not work for another.

Homeopathic called Leak No More but with different ingredients: http://www.onlynaturalpet.com/produc...re/120003.aspx For a pet 20 - 100 lbs/10 - 50 kg, one bottle will last 10 - 13 days at 3 doses daily.

You may also want to consider an herbal combination called Bladder Strength: Vetri-Science Bladder Strength Dog Supplement
It contains the following:
Pumpkin Seed Powder 150 mg
Rehmannia glutinosa (root) Powder150 mg
Wild Yam Extract 150 mg
Soy Protein Extract 100 mg
Corn Silk Powder 60 mg
Saw Palmetto Extract 60 mg
Olive Leaf Extract 50 mg
Vitamin B6 25 mg
Non-active Ingredients
- brewers yeast, microcrystalline cellulose, silicon dioxide, smoke flavor, stearic acid, vegetable stearate.

Personally, I hate giving dogs soy but in this case the soy, having an estrogen like composition, may help.
IF... your dog has any ITCHING problems, I would not order the Bladder Strength as it has Brewer's Yeast in it which can make dogs itch more.

Moms
03-31-2014 09:58 AM
Ali B.
Incontinence - Homeopathic Remedies

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Originally Posted by Momto2GSDs View Post
Here are some "natural" things you can try.
Homeopathic’s – Are derived from animal, vegetable, or mineral ingredients and works with the body to balance the problem. Specific “remedies” are used for incontinence.

Only Natural Pet Incontinence Dog Cat Homeopathic Remedy
Active Ingredients
Thyroidinum 12x
Glandula Suprarenalis 6x
Alumina 12x
Calcarea Carbonica 12x
Cantharis 12x
Causticum 12x
Hypothalmus 6x
Gelsemium Sempervirens 12x
Equisitum Hyemale 6x
Pulsatilla 12x
Pituitary 6x
Folliculinum 6x, 30x
Sepia 12x
Sabal serrulata 3x
Thuja Occidentalis 12x


HomeoPet Leaks No More Dog Cat Homeopathic Ingredients
Planto Major 6c&30c
Gelsemium Sempervirens 6c&30c
Cantharis 6c&30c
Causticum 6c&30c
Alumina 6c&30c in 20% USP alc. in purified water.

Only Natural Pet “Incontinence”: Newton Homeopathics Bladder Kidney Dog Cat
Active Ingredients: Thyroidinum 12x, Glandula Suprarenalis 6x, Alumina 12x, Calcarea Carbonica 12x, Cantharis 12x, Causticum 12x, Hypothalmus 6x, Gelsemium Sempervirens 12x, Equisitum Hyemale 6x, Pulsatilla 12x, Pituitary 6x, Folliculinum 6x, 30x, Sepia 12x, Sabal serrulata 3x, Thuja Occidentalis 12x There are 2 others with different combinations of homeopathic’s that you can try if this doesn’t work.

Herbals – Mullein Leaf – Helps to tone bladder muscles.
You can purchase a brand like Alvita Mullein Leaf Tea Bags at a health food store, steep in ½ to 1 cup of boiling water until cold. Give 2 tablespoons of the diluted mix after the evening meal and before you let them out for the last time before bedtime . If your dog doesn’t care for it, add 1 or 2 Tablespoons of canned low salt, low fat chicken or beef broth.
OR
Purchase pure loose Mullein Leaf and brew: using 1/2 teaspoon of crushed Mullein Leaf to 1 cup of boiled water, cover and steep for 20 minutes then strain with strainer. Give 2 tablespoons of the diluted mix after the evening meal and before you let them out for the last time before bedtime.

Parsley - Adding 1/2 teaspoon of chopped fresh kale and parsley to the dog's food will help strengthen the kidneys too.

There are other herbals & homeopathic's. PM me if you'd like them.

Hope this helps!
Moms
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01-09-2014 01:22 PM
mcdanfam One of the videos that lead me to more research...and helped us make our decision. Incase you ever plan on another pup or others on the feed are trying to decide for other health reasons. It is a few mins...but worth the info.

http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites...lth-risks.aspx


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01-09-2014 01:15 PM
mcdanfam
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Keeta has spay incontinence, she started about six months after she was spayed at 12 months old. We tried the synthetic estrogen, but it didn't help. After reading up on Proin, I decided to not medicate, and to just live with it.

At the time I was getting my feet wet with raw feeding, and found that once I went to 100% raw, her incontinence came under control. She still had the occasional leaking incident, but it went from maybe a couple a day, to maybe once a month. She is nine now, and still on raw, and the incontinence is still being very well controlled. If I put her back on kibble or cooked food for even just one day, she starts leaking again.
Great info! I will let my friend know! She does not want to use so much medicine.


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01-09-2014 10:35 AM
Castlemaid Keeta has spay incontinence, she started about six months after she was spayed at 12 months old. We tried the synthetic estrogen, but it didn't help. After reading up on Proin, I decided to not medicate, and to just live with it.

At the time I was getting my feet wet with raw feeding, and found that once I went to 100% raw, her incontinence came under control. She still had the occasional leaking incident, but it went from maybe a couple a day, to maybe once a month. She is nine now, and still on raw, and the incontinence is still being very well controlled. If I put her back on kibble or cooked food for even just one day, she starts leaking again.
01-09-2014 09:38 AM
Sarah~ Our vet did say she had never seen a dog with spay incontinence in her whole time as a vet. She suspects Xena was born with a weak sphincter, and her spay made it worse and the seizure meds making her thirsty just top it all off.

We did have a lot of trouble housebreaking her, now I wonder if it wasn't partially because of all of that. It's all very sad, she is barely a year old.

I'll look up corn silk, I have never heard of that, sounds like a good, natural option for Xena, I have been trying to go with more natural treatments since it's very important nothing interfere with the seizure meds.
01-09-2014 06:37 AM
JeanKBBMMMAAN Yes, licking can cause them to pee. I am trying to figure out that chicken/egg thing with my girl right now. She has a larger vulvar fold - not the thing that has to "pop out" just some extra skin - her sister, who I fostered as a senior when she came in to rescue, has it as well. It can cause irritation. I am using vet prescribed Quadritop ointment which is $14 a tube at my vet. I also don't know if her spine has anything to do with it as she has spondylosis.

Here is a good article:

DogAware.com Articles: Incontinence in Dogs

As to it being common in spayed females...from that article the number used to be 20%. Which means it doesn't happen in 80% of spayed females.

She's since updated it to include information from a new study that indicated: Update: a retrospective study published in April 2013, found the incidence of spay incontinence to be just a little over 5 percent. Larger dogs being more susceptible than smaller.

So it's not that common. Proin is also not necessarily a life long drug. I just spoke to a friend who had her female on it for a month and that was all that was needed. I am not sure if they are also doing collagen injections still, if it's good enough for Hollywood's faces, it's good enough for a dog's hoo ha right!

It is also something, if my dog is in that small percent (and at this point, it's old age incontinence as she heads towards 12) I would gladly take over other issues.

More information: Correcting polyuric disorder could put incontinence on hold - DVM

http://www.germanshepherds.com/forum...g-unusual.html this thread, particularly this article which has the top ten causes: Common Cause of Chronic UTI Has a Surgical Solution
Top 10 Causes of Female Urinary Incontinence
  1. Spinal disease
  2. Pelvic bladder
  3. Ectopic ureter(s)
  4. Urinary tract infection
  5. Patent urachal remnant
  6. Detrusor muscle instability
  7. Infiltrative bladder neoplasia
  8. Redundant perivulvar skin fold
  9. Chronic inflammatory bladder diseases
  10. Urethral sphincter mechanism incompetence
01-08-2014 10:45 PM
Midnight12
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Originally Posted by jang View Post
Sib is once again having this problem.. leaking, and actually peed the bed last week...I have Proin on hand and gave her some today as I saw her licking herself, something she never does...I am reluctant to take her to her current vet cuz he ALWAYS puts her on antibiotics...and says he thinks it is the BEGINNING of a uti...But by then she had already been "leaking" for like a week or so..However, I am SO strapped for money and have already spent SO much ...what am I to do? I know..take her to a new vet..Wonder what that costs...I love her more than anything...but gosh her dr appts. cost me more than my own...
In your girls case since she is licking herself, check and make sure that she does not have a rash there. My last gsd was doing this, and we tried the meds but it was the licking of the rash, that was making her pee. The vet gave me some crème, but it was kind of pricey. Then I asked, if I could use diaper rash crème. That worked fine and no more leaking or licking.
01-08-2014 10:01 PM
onyx'girl you could check out corn silk, it isn't harmful or conflictive that I know of with other medications.
01-08-2014 09:57 PM
Sarah~ My APBT mix is incontinent, she had some bladder control problems before her spay at 6 months, I was assured it wouldn't get any worse but after her spay it did. Then she started phenobarbitol for her seizures, that made it even worse, and now she is on prednisone for an allergic reaction to a flea bite, that makes her even thirstier so at this point she has basically no control over her bladder, she doesn't even realize she has to go or is going all over herself. The vet says once she is back in for her check up over the allergies we will see if the pill will work with her pheno. So I can't say if it works or not but I feel your pain.
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