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01-06-2014 08:41 AM
LaRen616 I LOVED English when I was in school! We only required 4 credits of English to graduate and I graduated with 8 credits.

I still mess up though, no one is perfect.

I hate ghetto slang.

Examples:

"I finna go 2 da mall 2day." Excuse me?

"Let me axe u something." What?!

"Give me some of dat grape drank." What?

I hate when people make up their own words and then they look at me like I am stupid when I have no idea what they are talking about!

01-04-2014 07:40 PM
ozzymama
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Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
I'm a little late to the party! Even if I were a PE, I'm pretty sure a NYS license wouldn't be acceptable in a different country! lol
I dunno, my girlfriend signed hers, she doesn't have the PE and is only a mechanical engineer - hers was for the addition on her house.
01-04-2014 06:40 PM
Jax08 I'm a little late to the party! Even if I were a PE, I'm pretty sure a NYS license wouldn't be acceptable in a different country! lol
01-04-2014 06:35 PM
ozzymama
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Originally Posted by Jax08 View Post
Right!!!! lol
Well thanks for finally chiming in. You know I'm opening that bottle in about 30 minutes and I had to get a signature the normal way, which was make sure my drawings were correct.

You arse will be up here for the signature on our addition, like I said to another gf I needed a favour from, you can ride in the cab of my truck, where it's heated and comfortable, or duct taped in the truck bed, really, it is your choice! Seriously, get your ass up here this summer.
01-04-2014 05:54 PM
jang Lighten up, folks....Summer, you did nothing wrong or offensive...Everyone needs to get a sense of humor...Sue, you are a trip...Summer, you are lovely..Everyone else..GET OVER IT...Blessings to you all....
01-04-2014 10:10 AM
Jax08
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Originally Posted by ozzymama View Post
When I need a PEG signature on a drawing, those letters are all I care are spelled right. Actually I need a signature later, trade a VQA Ice Wine for it?

I have my OPS Style guide beside me at all times, perhaps I should pull it out for writing here. I was going to fill one of my empty mornings with tutouring English as a second language to newcomers, but I see there are people far better suited to such pursuits on this thread LOL.
Right!!!! lol

Bad spelling drives me nuts if it's on our drawings or in emails to our subs or contractors. Hello...USE spell check! Or ask someone to review your drawing!

We have one guy that says he's dyslectic. Ok. Fine. Then have one of us look at your drawings to make sure it's all correct. Nope...he knows it all. I cringe when I see his drawings out in the field. One misspelled, or misplaced word, in a sequence of operations can change the whole system. One misplaced letter in a part number screws the whole thing up.

Bad grammar on here? Who cares. This is not a professional situation. Let people be. As far as the run on paragraphs, I ignore them. If they are hard to read I spend my time elsewhere.
01-04-2014 10:06 AM
Jax08 It was a joke Sue. You really didn't need to write a book on why I was wrong.

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I'm a mechanical designer. Engineers don't spell...we do math.
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Originally Posted by selzer View Post
I am an Electrical Engineer. It's funny, in my last year of college, I was taking Social Deviance because they did not offer Technical Writing when I needed it, and I was able to substitue in that class. Anyways, the class was made up of all education and social/phsych majors. I was the odd ball. She assigned a project, and when passing them back, she went into a tirade about the lack of writing skills employed. This was an upper division course. She was using the term "garbage" when she handed my paper to me. I thought, "ick, it was late when I typed that out." So I looked at the grade "A" and the comment, "very nicely written."

The thing is, engineering students can read and sometimes spell and even write a composition when the fit siezes them. It is certainly no excuse.

When I was Technical Advisor, I had a technician that was sloppy. He could find the problem, usually, but I always had to check his work because he couldn't fill in the paper work or complete the tests properly. I was not sorry to see the back of him. Electrical work can be rejected/fail inspections for lack of neatness.

I remember once, when I had to give feedback to one of the gals on the line, about a product that she submitted. Years later, she reminded me what I had said. I had taken the model to her, and said, "Look how neat this is" Then I showed her hers, and said, "This is like spaghetti." Well it stuck, she became one of my best, most trusted assemblers, and her work was neat after that.

Punctuation is like neatness. It is important. I understand that we have children on the site, and people whose first language isn't English. Most of the people whose first language is not English, put those whose first language is English to shame.

Writing skills improve with practice. This site can be a wonderful place to practice English skills. Why waste the opportunity on complete sloppyness. Because that can become a habit as well, and it can creap out in places where it doesn't make you look all that good.

Long unweildy sentences, huge paragraphs without punctuation or breaks, or writing that contains more text talk than not are all difficult to read. They are more likely to be interpreted incorrectly. And they are more likely to give the reader a less than favorable impression of the writer, whether they are willing to admit it or not.

Making a thread to point that out is actually not a bad thing. Some people I suppose, just feel that it doesn't matter so long as they understood what they had written. Without proper punctuation, that might not be the case with everyone else. It's bad enough that a lot of the tone of communication can be lost through posting on the internet rather than direct communication. Lack of any writing skills makes it that much more difficult to get your point across, or ask your question in such a way that you receive the information you are looking for.
01-04-2014 04:03 AM
SummerGSDLover
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Originally Posted by TrickyShepherd View Post
To make it clear, I didn't say I had a problem with this thread in general or that it was nitpicking. I referred to nitpicking done by those who correct grammar often in other members' threads. They don't come here for a lesson in grammar. They come here for help regarding dogs, and/or to share stories and memories of the breed we all love and care about. There's all walks of life here.

Anyway, I don't see eye to eye with you 100% on the context of the original statement. I agree with your last paragraph, but the OP can be read in many different ways (the joy of written vs. verbal). The way this (quoted below) is worded, it could be taken as an insult to someone's intelligence, someone's honest attempt at a second (or for some, 3rd) language, or it could be assumed that this forum is not welcoming unless you're writing at a college level. Not everyone is capable of that, and many were not offered a college education. Sadly enough, the school system below college level does not teach proper grammar.

Thick skin is needed on any online forums when you make a post, but I just don't understand the whole panties in a twist that everyone gets over grammar on all of these forums. Laziness is annoying, I hate slang, and I definitely can't stand when everything is abbreviated. That is frustrating and I completely understand the complaint with that. That's just being sloppy and careless. That's a whole 'nother ball game! But, grammar errors (that are not extreme), are usually fairly easy to read through. Since we don't know everyone personally or understand their background, it's really useless and rude to alienate them or criticize.



OP, although I do understand what you're trying to get at, I also think being apart of a large online forum with all types of people takes some patience and understanding. I do agree that the posts that have no punctuation are frustrating. It's not hard to add a period occasionally, and at least attempt to place it correctly. But, not all mistakes or grammar errors are done out of being lazy or with ill intent.

As a side note:
Some actually don't understand they're, their, there. It's not that they are lazy, it's that they just simply were never taught. If it can be understood, then why pick fun at it or get stressed out?

My dog ran over to there crate.
My dog ran over to they're crate.

My dog ran over to their crate.

I think the majority can understand quite easily without getting a headache. It's not correct and although I realize that, it's also not harming anyone. We're not here to teach grammar lessons or educate anyone on english writing 101. Let it be and move along. Either respond to the topic of the post, or if it bothers you (general you) too much, then don't respond at all.

If this was a place of education or work, or an english writing forum, then I'd have a much different opinion on this.
I apparently am misunderstanding the point of having a "chat room" where hundreds of people are venting about very random things from neighbors to the prices of the cost of living in their area.
I have a lot of patience and understanding. I guess I just wanted to chat about it. I am truly sorry if I offended anyone. That was not my intention whatsoever, I simply was letting a little steam off. I do understand that there are people from all walks of life on here and many do not have college educations. I also understand that some people honestly do not know the difference between certain words and others. I apologize again. I think my innocently meant posting has been dissected by many people now so I will try to watch how I personally phrase things so as not to offend anyone or hurt someone's feelings.
Sorry guys.

*-*Summer*-*
01-01-2014 03:37 PM
jang That Sue is a gas...that's for sure!!!
01-01-2014 10:48 AM
Courtney
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Originally Posted by jang View Post
Oh crap..new day, fresh mind..Now I get it!!
I got such a good chuckle last night from the exchange between you and Sue
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